Apr 032013
 April 3, 2013

florida marijuana bongs banned medical marijuanaFlorida, a state in which self-defense with a gun is legal, has passed a bill banning all sales of bongs, pipes, and any marijuana-related paraphernalia. Because even though 7/10 Floridians favor medical marijuana, the state’s constituency has decided it’s better to ban bongs than allow patients safe access to medicine.

So meanwhile, while 18 states (plus D.C.), have medical marijuana, Florida’s bill can’t even get a legitimate hearing and has hit a stale-mate.

Shame on us as a Legislature for not taking the opportunity to hear this bill this year,” House bill sponsor Rep. Katie Edwards (D-Plantation) said at a press conference on Monday.

Edwards introduced the bill after getting sick herself last year and speaking with cancer patients about how marijuana alleviated their suffering.

“I thought, ‘these are real people,’” Edwards told ABC Action News, “and I cannot turn a blind eye and stick my head in the sand and pretend like it’s not happening, because it is.”

The bill is named for Cathy Jordan who has been suffering from Lou Gehrig’s disease since 1986.

In February, the Manatee County Sheriff’s Department staged an armed raid on the Jordans’ home, seizing 23 marijuana plants, including two mature plants Cathy was using to treat her symptoms.

Opponents like Rep. Jimmy Patronis (R-Panama City) think Cathy and other Floridians needing marijuana for medical reasons should move to a state where it’s legal, reports the News Herald.

Meanwhile an Orlando-based Democratic fundraiser John Morgan is focusing on collecting the 700,000 signatures required to get a constitutional amendment legalizing medical marijuana on the ballot in November 2014.

Patients in Florida like Jordan suffering and resorting to pills to help their illnesses will now go without legal medicinal marijuana for the foreseeable future. In the backwards state of Florida-where the Trayvon Martin shooting was technically “legal”-you can fire a gun if you interpret an intruder as a menace. But if you buy a ROOR, you’re a criminal. And that’s the real crime.

Source: Marijuana.Com

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  • Jetdoc

    Yeah… That’ll solve the problem! Just quit selling bongs and our perceived problem is taken care of… They’ll give you OXY, Percocet, Vicodin & MORPHINE all day long! Even to DRUG ADDICTS that are Dr shopping for pills… They’ve even got an Oxycontin Highway of Midwesterners who DRIVE there from all over just to get some OPIOIDS…. but don’t you DARE sell a fucking Bong

    • knotweed

      This has Big Pharma and Alcohol Lobbyist written all over it.

      • Dave_Mowers

        Actually no. The move into head shop retail items by Convenience stores and Beach Shops started this along with U.S. Customs who seem to be eager to target the head shop industry nationwide. I suspect they will begin investigating stores and building cases against suppliers of manufactured drug paraphernalia products, primarily in California, within the year and we will see raids under the Mail Order Act on California companies and glassblowers by D.E.A. in support of U.S. Customs and the Postal Service. Anyone selling and shipping to Florida better think twice about what they are doing; the store owner gets a plea while they are going to do three years and get a $250,000.00 fine.

  • ZZardozz

    A pipe cannot be considered drug paraphernalia until it is used that way. Until then, it COULD be used for tobacco.

    • http://www.facebook.com/slackersallday Edgar Torres

      according to this bill….even if used or un-used as of effective this bill its ILLEGAL regardless….which is bullshit

    • Dave_Mowers

      Not according to federal law which specifically defines what is or is not a tobacco smoking apparatus. The problem is in interpretation; your government interprets “drug paraphernalia” to be anything sold in head shops, period. Ask any D.E.A. or U.S. Customs agent. If people wanted these things to be legal they have to lobby the tobacco industry to accept these products which they do not. Tobacco companies hold all the power here if you do not get them to lobby Congress you will never see glass pipes and bongs legal for sale.

      One D.E.A. agent interviewed after Operation Pipe Dreams was even asked about “functional art pieces” that were aesthetically beautiful and thousands of dollars in a gallery; he said that would be unfortunate for the art gallery owner because they (The D.E.A.) will conduct raids wherever those pipes are sold. The Controlled Substances Act and Mail Order Act banned these items so according to these two agencies there is no debate; they are illegal.

      Medical marijuana dispensaries have simply proven, by selling glass pipes, what the government has claimed all along; that these pipes were never intended for use with tobacco products at all. The government consults major tobacco companies, those institutions are the only people who can change this.

    • Dave_Mowers

      Not according to federal law which specifically defines what is or is not a tobacco smoking apparatus. The problem is in interpretation; your government interprets “drug paraphernalia” to be anything sold in head shops, period. Ask any D.E.A. or U.S. Customs agent. If people wanted these things to be legal they have to lobby the tobacco industry to accept these products which they do not. Tobacco companies hold all the power here if you do not get them to lobby Congress you will never see glass pipes and bongs legal for sale.

      One D.E.A. agent interviewed after Operation Pipe Dreams was even asked about “functional art pieces” that were aesthetically beautiful and thousands of dollars in a gallery; he said that would be unfortunate for the art gallery owner because they (The D.E.A.) will conduct raids wherever those pipes are sold. The Controlled Substances Act and Mail Order Act banned these items so according to these two agencies there is no debate; they are illegal.

      Medical marijuana dispensaries have simply proven, by selling glass pipes, what the government has claimed all along; that these pipes were never intended for use with tobacco products at all. The government consults major tobacco companies, those institutions are the only people who can change this.

      • incogneatow

        You seemed to be well informed on this subject. What about Hookahs? Traditionally used to smoke flavored tobacco and hashish in Arab states. A hookah is a bong with hoses.

        • Dave_Mowers

          Hookahs are specifically mentioned as legal tobacco devices and that was put their by tobacco companies. As I have said before, if this industry does not partner up with actual tobacco companies, not resellers, not distributors but major manufacturers it is doomed. The D.E.A., U.S. Customs, Postal Service and local police agencies all have charts they read displaying glass pipes and bongs specifically as only for marijuana use no matter what you think or say they do not believe it and will arrest you for selling these items. I spoke with a federal criminal defense attorney about Operation Pipe Dreams who personally knew the federal attorney who prosecuted store in N.C. under Headhunter and was told that the Governor of N.C. asked the feds to clean up Raleigh and they agreed using existing federal law to close down every store in Raleigh. That is all it took.

  • Dewayne Bennett

    These Idiots we hired are NOT listening to what we want. let’s get new ones. In a state where 65+% of residents polled agree that marijuana should be legal in some way, why are our legislators refusing to address it? Dept of Homeland Security (???) raided The Glass Eye (sells pipes, etc) a couple of years ago and destroyed their store and inventory. I could never get an answer as to why they were involved. I did find that the officer in charge lives next door to a pastor from The First Baptist Church. We spend Thousands of dollars per hour on surveillance looking for marijuana…why? We spend more in Florida on “the war on drugs” than we do on education. We should all be more than outraged!

    • Dave_Mowers

      There must be an extreme disconnect between your citizens and legislators because when I consulted on an earlier version of this legislation from 2010 I asked about the medical marijuana issue and was laughed at. I was made to believe that Florida would never, ever be legalizing marijuana for any reason. I was also given that opinion for North Carolina and it was related to me that no one on the U.S. Senate really wanted marijuana legalized in any way federally for medicinal purposes, that in fact most legislators, if they will even address this issue, pay it lip service with no intention of seeing marijuana designated a “medicinal” product. I have even inquired about the F.D.A.’s position and was lead to believe that they will prosecute you for selling marijuana products that claim any sort of remedy of any kind.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kurt.romines Kurt Romines

    take take take….when is it time to give?

  • incogneatow

    Bongs originated in Thailand (baung) for smoking a lot of things besides cannabis. Historically bongs have been used for smoking all sorts of substances. I think that any law that targets cannabis paraphernalia is discriminatory (at least unjust) and does nothing to curb the use of prohibited substances.

    Are hookahs illegal? I’ve seen many hookahs that are also used for cannabis – hashish.

    The problem seems to be with the marijuana related paraphernalia sections of the law. Tobacco pipes sold at Walmart and CVS would fall under this ban, because they have been used by cannabis consumers for a long time and even portrayed in films as cannabis paraphernalia. What is marijuana related paraphernalia? A soda can, a pineapple, an apple, a carrot, a lighter, a torch (most of these items have several other uses)? Is a bong a device specifically used for cannabis?

    But, you just gotta wonder if they would continue to attack head shops if the products did not represent the alternative culture that surrounds cannabis use. Would it matter if the bongs and pipes were designed with the modern aesthetic (like Apple electronic products). Would it matter if all the cannabis consumers wore professional attire instead of the hippie-esque Grateful Dead counter culture. If so then the law discriminates against a portion of the republic.

    Unfortunately this is the kind of social construct we live in at this time. We have become a nation of far too many laws that attempt to legislate behavior. This will all become a mute point once legalization has spread across the globe. Cannabis paraphernalia shops are not as important as keeping pressure on politicians to legalize. Head shops will not be a hot topic after legalization, they will be commonplace.

    Floridians will have to order their bongs online like the rest of us… The internet is once again a significant equalizer.

    • Dave_Mowers

      Selling drug paraphernalia over the internet is banned and was the motivation for Operation Pipe Dreams in the first place. Shipping these items across State lines is banned under the Mail Order Act and is prosecuted by the U.S. Postal Service. Fedex and UPS will, if made aware of what you are shipping, turn you in to the feds.

      • incogneatow

        I have purchased spore prints, bongs, cannabis (B.C. Bud), cannabis seeds, Ayahuasca kits, and a lot of other stuff from online retailers for over 15 years. The reseller tells you what will appear on your credit card statement (no invoice sent, discrete address) and sends the goods along with your choice of CD, T-shirt, or stuffed animal. Cannabis users have been doing things like this for a long time, since we are kind of operating on a level of illegality anyway, for the most part…

        Federal banning of personal behavior has done little to keep me from expressing my personal liberty. Just because it is a federal law does not mean it is a ‘just’ law (considering this is a blog about cannabis, where would cannabis reform be if we followed all the laws on the books). Most of us here are activists in some form.

        I understand your point. Everyone needs to be aware of the consequences (laws) of attempting to purchase banned cannabis paraphernalia. Inexperienced people should seek advice or avoid using the internet to purchase illicit substances and paraphernalia.

        Enough said…

        For the Feds: The above statements are not an admission of guilt in carrying out illegal activity. Conversations on this forum should be considered hearsay and cannot be taken as a form of confession in any manner. The accuracy of the above statements must be verified and all evidence must accompany the investigation persuant to federal, state and local county ordinances.

        Cheers

        • Dave_Mowers

          Internet sales of drug paraphernalia are specifically forbidden. Just because the Justice Department has not prosecuted those companies does not mean they will not or that it is legal. See Operation Pipe Dreams for proof. In that operation they went after these companies and it is my understanding that Operation Pipe Dreams was not a single operation but the establishment of a task force whose sole job is to investigate sellers of these products and it is ongoing, it will be happening over and over again. Shipping these products for any reason is specifically banned under the Mail Order Act.

  • incogneatow

    I just remembered that Florida still has “dry counties” – Lafayette County, Liberty County, Washington County and Suwannee County (Madison County became wet in 2012). In 2013 there are still counties in states that ban the sale of beer, wine and distilled spirits (you can buy liquor at one of the many liquor stores lined up along the neighboring county border.

    I guess banning cannabis paraphernalia sales makes sense in the politically backward state of Florida (no offense – most states are politically backward).

    It’s kinda funny since most of the southerners I have come to know over time consume cannabis.

  • http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/ M. Simon

    This movie needs more air time: Should Grandma Smoke Pot?

    There is a link at the above site to make donations. Minds must be changed.

  • PISSED OFF

    Jimmy Partronis, ROTT IN HELL you fucnkin asshole; hope you suffer like all of us. You should move to a country where they can use a ass like you; you are NOT an AMERICAN!!!

    • Matthew Cunningham

      I just Google him and called his office the evils these prohibitions have done are doing and will do is a sin against Gods natural Law every one please call this dimwit and speak your mind

  • Carpetdude

    I am glad the D/A did not press charges in the Jordan case. They knew the case would be tossed. With a 70 % for medical weed there was no way a jury would have found them guilty, and the case would have been kicked to the curb, And yes next election A few law makers will be kicked to the curb also.With the DA not going ahead with the case it sends a loud and clear message to people who need medical weed, grow and the state wont press charges for a medical reason. I have spinal stenosis of the T spine and other blown disk and DDD and have no pain mgmt, Dr. After being forced to pee in a cup and coming back with a dirty urine for pot I was cut off my other pain meds. Funny Rick Scott could not make anyone working for the State or trying to get state aid to pee in a cup, but my dr. thinks it is ok to stump on my rights. And with medical weed I was using half the amount of pain meds. A lot better on the liver!

  • disqus_n7Mq1rHGSh

    Every I got an idea that so crazy it might just work, the lobbyist’s are the ones telling the legislative what to do I say we do what are founding father did and dump all there shit in the ocean and protest there ass by not buying there shit anyone else agreed with me

  • http://www.facebook.com/bill.allen.779857 Bill Allen

    It will never happen because of Disney. Have to keep up that clean, wholesome family image. Well, that and keep the revenue flowing into law enforcement. Police state USA!

  • Pissed Floridian

    Great idea guys! Take ALL those jobs away! Sounds to me like you’re about to piss A LOT of people off you old ass f**ks!

  • anon

    The people in control of Florida need to be replaced. The rest of the United States are making progress on this issue and Florida goes backwards. It’s like they forget that the people puts them in their positions, how are they still there after doing such things?

  • John Carson

    I think it is absolutely crazy what they are trying to do in florida! Insane! If you want to read more articles about it I found a great list online. Its at http://premiumbongs.com/bong-news.html

  • officialhealthtips

    Just get a good natural bamboo and you have the best bong !

  • http://www.facebook.com/JohnTheWireGuy John Padgett

    this is probably the nail in the coffin for Florida’s tourism, even the snow birds like a bong hit every now and then.

  • Jellar

    So now everyone will get a dr. Note allowing them to abuse a legal form of heroin but you can’t own a pipe makes perfect sense….idiots

  • merica

    The florida legislatures need to smoke a bowl and chill the fuck out.

  • http://www.facebook.com/drbredd Nikk Sant

    oof

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=795272661 Luke Thomas

    IN WRITING AND SIGNED BY MYSELF – submitted
    properly to the US Justice Department, and some Federal law makers, in writing, I proposed to the US Justice
    Dept a $5,000 income tax fine for each marijuana charge. DELETE
    jail/prison time. Make it strictly an income tax fine with wage
    garnishment – WELFARE and DISABILITY (the ones who mostly use marijuana)
    shall NOT be exempt from said garnishment. By the way I emailed law makers banning bongs in Florida. I applaud the bill and hope the Governor signs it to law.

  • RobertMaxwell

    MESSAGE TO AUTHOR! It does not say that having a bong, or buying a bong makes you a criminal anywhere in the new law. It says SELLLING A BONG is aginst the law…. REAL medical patients use edibles or vaporizers n e way