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Marijuana Opponent Tries To Tie Marijuana To Terrorism

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MarijuanReefer Madnessa opponents are getting desperate. Within the last week or so, Dr. Christian Thurstone of Project S.A.M. tried to insinuate that the murder of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri was the result of marijuana consumption. Also, a marijuana opponent at an Oregon debate stated that five babies have died as a result of marijuana in Colorado, which was blatantly false. And in one of the saddest articles I’ve ever read, marijuana opponent Cliff Kincaid is suggesting that marijuana is the cause of terrorist acts. Below is an excerpt from his article, which I encourage all readers to leave a comment on:

Zehaf-Bibeau was an Islamist, as well as a pothead. In another notorious case of jihad, one of the Boston Marathon bombers, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, was not only a dope smoker but a dealer.

It appears that Dzhokhar’s brother Tamerlan Tsarnaev was implicated in a Jewish triple murder case in which thousands of dollars’ worth of marijuana and money were left covering the bodies. All three victims’ throats were slashed.

It may be too early to draw a direct connection between jihad, marijuana, and mass murder, but it is worth considering whether consumption of the drug can alter the mind to such an extent that jihad becomes appealing to some mentally unstable individuals.

We also have the case of Michael Brown, the black thug who was shot and killed in Ferguson, Missouri. An autopsy and toxicology report finds that he had marijuana in his system and had been a user for some time.

There is no hint of jihad here, only anti-police violence. But the role of marijuana in this violent confrontation deserves extensive coverage, not just a footnote. Trayvon Martin, the black juvenile delinquent shot and killed after he assaulted anti-crime activist George Zimmerman, also smoked marijuana regularly.

The article left me almost speechless. This shows just how dumb some members of the anti-marijuana community are. Michael Brown was not a ‘black thug.’ Trayvon Martin’s murder was not the result of his marijuana consumption, it was the result of a man shooting him. ‘It may be too early to draw a direct connection between jihad, marijuana, and mass murder…’ No sh#t Sherlock. It’s not just ‘too early,’ as there’s no correlation between marijuana and people getting murdered or murdering others. Mr. Kincaid’s article is inaccurate, offensive, and I hope that all TWB readers contact him and let them know what they think of his reefer madness. Shame on you Mr. Kincaid.

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  1. No one needs a prescription for Tylenol, a drug that does an awful lot of harm to be so freely available.

    And I know you have a problem with “toxins.” Makes me wonder, though, how you feel about oxidation? Have you stopped breathing oxygen?

  2. I say go for it if you have doctor prescription. It is a drug like many which has its benefits and collateral effects. Let doctors prescribe it? But I said since the beginning I totally understand one pumping toxins for treatment.

  3. I am foreigner and English is my third language. I write very well though, but I need to review it few times. Sorry typing fast and no time to review when I battle on these many forums.

  4. Source of my article regarding IQ scores are from Wikipedia. Right, so you think you are smart citing excessive sports as a cause of death. It is the same I tell you avoid driving a Tesla Model D (it means a pleasure in life) because you could crash it and die, so just ride a bus instead. How about if I quit drinking wine just because it could cause some diseases. Life is full of risks. Smart people know how to balance it out. Sports in moderation are a joy, a self-defense in my specific case and it obvious it does bring more benefits than harm. As I said if that is for medical usage, that is another story and obviously people can take advantage of it instead of taking other drugs. Again go ahead and eat it if you want. In the type of traditional food I cook – trust me I cook very well-my recipe is already established and no drugs go in there. Funny you saying that, because I was cooking a French dish when dating my ex girlfriend and some guys asked me to let them include cannabis and I got mad like hell. Well good luck in life with your views.

  5. I keep up, you know… I’m a regular at the Bloomberg website, so you are just repeating information I’ve already read. And I usually don’t have opinions without doing the research first.

    Let’s just take the price of oil, shall we? Funny, economists and market watchers have a list of the usual reasons why oil prices fluctuate like they do, and all of them make sense: international conflict, decreases in supply because of a hurricane or busted pipeline, the market playing with the price, etc.

    And yet here we are, being terrorized by ISIS, and the price of gas hasn’t been this low in, like, forever. Oh, sure, it’s because the U.S. is now cranking out more gas than it can use, or really, pick any of the fallback reasons. Who knows? Maybe the Arab countries feel sorry for all us poor folks in America, and have created a way for us to finally get a break — you know, because our government can’t seem to get its act together.

    There’s also the fact that the Dow has reached heights previously never seen before — what’s up with that? Does the market really reflect what’s happening on Main Street? Has the market shrunk to the point that it only exists to make a profit for a handful of people?

    Could be a bubble, who knows. Could all come crashing down again. We won’t know what’s going on until AFTER it happens. Yeah, there are people who know what’s going on in the economy… sure, okay.

  6. Prohibitionism is the willful infliction of physical and psychic pain to achieve political ends.
    Terrorism is the willful infliction of physical and psychic pain to achieve political ends.
    Therefore, prohibitionism equals terrorism
    You’re welcome

  7. “doesn’t conform to any well-known economic theory”

    Oh, please. We have real world examples of what works and what doesn’t. You have to willingly ignore all the evidence to have a Freshwater (supply-side) theory that holds up.

    For example, since Reaganomics started, middle class wages have been stagnant. We know this is because of several factors. A high dollar policy (sends jobs oversseas), union busing (keeps wages low), a high supply of labor, a low supply of jobs, market rigging to redistribut upwardly mostly through cost-shifting of negative externalities, etc.

    We also can see, right now, that Europe’s austerity measures are hurting their economy while our “austerity light” policies aren’t hurting us as much.

    We have multiple real world examples of a higher minimum wage HELPING the economy. (See Washington State, etc…).

    We have right wingers screaming for the past six years that QE would cause higher inflation. They’ve been wrong. We’re stuck in the zero lower bound, just as Krugman, Baker, et al have been saying. Even Larry Summers has admitted that he war wrong and that demand is our problem.

    Hell, just read what Baker wrote today.

    http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/qsecular-stagnationq-is-progress-now-can-we-talk-about-the-trade-deficit

    The supply-sideres have been wrong about everything. The more progressive economists have been right. GW Bush told us that massive tax cuts to the rich would create millions of jobs. Even if we’re fair to him, and we only count his job growth average during NON RECESSION months, it was a horrible 68,000 a month. Well below population growth.

    Even during a recovery in which government spending has actually dropped (the opposite of the Reagan recovery), Obama’s non-recession job growth has been double that. If we’d have been spending like Reagan did, especially on our crumbling infrastructure, things would be MUCH BETTER.

    There is no doubt about that among economists who know what they’re talking about.

  8. ok the older brother killed the 3 people because they sold his brother weed….seems prohibition is more responsible

  9. Scott, I’m not sure you can be right or wrong about macroeconomics — the market seems to have a life of its own, and doesn’t conform to any well-known economic theory. (The thing about big data is the inability of just about anyone to decipher it…)

  10. Considering the much-talked-about outcome of this election, perhaps the GOP is working harder than the Democrats?

  11. Be Smart, Do Your Research! on

    I would ask that you refrain from bashing anyone who does use the natural herb. But that would probably be lost on you to consider how you’re making yourself appear to others. All it comes out as is slander and hearsay because you have no factual proof or references to support your claims.

    There is more than one way to use marijuana. This would also include the following:

    1.) consuming edibles (some of those who use it for medicinal purposes prefer to eat it). Cannabis can be infused into butter or oil that is then cooked in food. It usually take longer to take effect than smoking or vaporizing, often 20 minutes to an hour or more. Doses can be difficult to judge, so it is recommended to eat only small portions of edible medical cannabis at a time, and wait at least an hour to assess its effects so you do not over-medicate. Edible herbal medicine will kick in significantly faster if eaten on an empty stomach. In general, the therapeutic effects from eating cannabis last much longer than other consumption methods, often up to four hours or more, and then slowly begin to wear off. Many patients report that this method provides more of a relaxing body effect than the cerebral high that is often accompanied with vaporizing and smoking.

    2.) Using a vaporizer. A vaporizer is a device that is able to extract the therapeutic ingredients in the cannabis plant material, called cannabinoids, at a much lower temperature than required for burning. This allows patients to inhale the active ingredients as a vapor instead of smoke, and spares them the irritating and harmful effects of smoking. Those patients who are used to “smoking” marihuana may not feel like they are “getting anything” at first because it does not “burn” the throat. It
    is advised to use caution and wait a few minutes to feel the full
    effects. Many patients say that half as much herbal medicine will
    provide twice the effect when vaporized.

    3.) Topical: Topical herbal medicines are applied directly to the skin
    or muscles. They include lotions, salves, balms, sprays, oils, and
    creams. Harborside patients report they are tremendously effective for
    skin conditions like psoriasis, joint diseases like rheumatoid
    arthritis, migraines, restless leg syndrome, some spasms, and everyday
    muscle stress and soreness. However, unlike smoking, vaporizing or
    eating the medical cannabis, topicals are completely
    non-psychoactive—you could take a bath in them, and never get high.

    4.) Tinctures (Cannabis Concentrate) A tincture is a concentrated form of medical cannabis in an alcohol solution. Tinctures are highly concentrated and require careful dosage levels, starting out small and waiting to feel the effects before adding more. They can be taken under the tongue or mixed into water or other beverages.

    Just to let you know, exercising can be just as bad as anything else when it is done in excess and has been known to actually kill people. *GASP* How is that possible? Yet, marijuana has no known or recorded directly related deaths to date.. interesting.

    Let us see how many articles we can dig up on Exercise vs. Marijuana and compare! :D

    1.) Exercising to excess increases risk of death for heart attack survivors: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/280913.php

    2.) “…Yet it is clear that, on occasion, trained and apparently healthy athletes die suddenly during exercise. A graphic example of this tragedy is that of a 57 year-old American who collapsed and died within one minute after setting a regional master’s record for the 3000-m run indoors. The athlete had not previously reported cardiac symptoms and a maximal exercise test performed 22 months before his death did not
    reveal any cardiac abnormalities (http://www.sportsci.org/encyc/suddendeath/suddendeath.html).”

    3.) Athletes’ deaths in workouts prompt new guidelines: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/athletes-deaths-in-workouts-prompt-new-guidelines/2012/07/02/gJQAT5bPKW_story.html

    4.) Deaths during running: Is exercise safe? Part 1 // Sudden death during exercise: The media, risk and running: http://sportsscientists.com/2009/10/3-runners-die-in-detroit-safety-of/

    Well, isn’t that funny?
    Can’t seem to find any deaths directly linked to Marijuana consumption..yet I did find these:

    1.) “An exhaustive search of the literature finds no deaths induced by
    marijuana. The US Drug Abuse Warning Network (DAWN) records instances of drug mentions in medical examiners’ reports, and though marijuana is mentioned, it is usually in combination with alcohol or other drugs. Marijuana alone has not been shown to cause an overdose death (http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Overdose#Cannabis).”

    2.) “Tetrahydrocannabinol is a very safe drug. Laboratory animals (rats, mice, dogs, monkeys) can tolerate doses of up to 1,000 mg/kg (milligrams per kilogram). This would be equivalent to a 70 kg person swallowing 70 grams of the drug—about 5,000 times more than is required to produce a high. Despite the widespread illicit use of cannabis there are very few if any instances of people dying from an overdose. In Britain, official government statistics listed five deaths from cannabis in the period 1993-1995 but on closer examination these proved to have been deaths due to inhalation of vomit that could not be directly attributed to cannabis (House of Lords Report, 1998). By comparison with other commonly used recreational drugs these statistics are impressive (http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Overdose#Cannabis).”

    3.) In States With Medical Marijuana, Painkiller Deaths Drop by 25%: http://www.newsweek.com/states-medical-marijuana-painkiller-deaths-drop-25-266577

    4.) Oregon marijuana legalization opponent admits he was wrong about children deaths: http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/index.ssf/2014/10/oregon_marijuana_legalization_6.html

    5.) Marijuana vs. Alcohol: http://archive.saferchoice.org/content/view/24/53/

  12. It does not have to be smoked, extracting the active ingredients with alcohol is easy, albeit stinky. And for the matter of the smell, some people perfume themselves to the point that I will give up my place in a line to avoid standing near an over perfumed individual. If smelling like marijuana is an actionable offense, does it not then open the door to charging an overperfumed erson with assault?

  13. Xan! You win the dumb-ass award du jour and good luck with your schooling in written English!

  14. X: I’m just wondering… What do you say to parents who treat their child’s epilepsy with cannabis? Do you look down on and preach to them too?

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