Mar 102016
 March 10, 2016

new hampshire medical marijuanaThe New Hampshire House of Representatives approved a bill Thursday evening in a voice vote that would remove criminal penalties for possession of small amounts of marijuana and replace them with a civil fine. The measure will now be considered in the Senate.

HB 1631 would make possession of up to one-half ounce of marijuana a civil violation punishable by a fine of $100 for a first offense, $200 for a second offense, and $500 for a third or subsequent offense. Under current state law, possession of any amount of marijuana is a misdemeanor punishable by up to one year in prison and a fine of up to $2,000.

“This is commonsense marijuana policy reform,” said Matt Simon, New England political director for the Marijuana Policy Project. “It is irrational to brand people as criminals simply for possessing a substance that is safer than alcohol.”

Nearly three out of four New Hampshire residents (72%) think the legislature should decriminalize marijuana possession or make it legal for adults, according to a WMUR Granite State Poll released earlier this month. The full results are available at http://bit.ly/1Xdt8j9.

“New Hampshire citizens want the legislature to adopt a more sensible marijuana policy,” Simon said. “House members have done their part, and we hope their colleagues in the Senate will join them in supporting this measure.”

New Hampshire is the only state in New England that treats simple marijuana possession as a criminal offense with the potential for jail time. Twenty states and the District of Columbia have removed the threat of jail for simple marijuana possession. Fifteen other states, including New Hampshire, are considering bills to do so this year.

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Source: The Marijuana Policy Project is the nation’s largest marijuana policy organization. For more information, visit http://www.MarijuanaPolicy.org.

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  • NickyChuck

    Awesome! This is always the sort of movement we want to see. The more legislatures make moves to decriminalize, the more citizens will want to take it a step further and legalize, and gain a tax source larger than alcohol, to judge by Colorado. Funding for schools usually plays well.

    • SH

      Colorado??? The marijuana problem that has been caused by legalization is costing the average taxpayers WAY more than they are bringing in via tax revenues. And use tax revenue from weed for funding of schools? Its will cost the schools MILLIONS to pay for the services required to offset the damage caused by youth drug abuse.

      • saynotohypocrisy

        dream on

      • saynotohypocrisy

        You forgot to recommend your own post this time!

      • A-Pug

        Colorado raised over $70,000,000 in tax revenue from the $1b worth of cannabis sales last fiscal year, expected to almost double this year. Do you actually have sources for your claims, or are you simply making claims based on your beliefs and assuming them accurate?

        • SH

          Not at all…theres no question that it is bringing in revenue. Does that make it OK?

      • Franklin

        That is inaccurate. Colorado is saving over a 100 million dollars a year by regulating and taxing the plant like adults. The millions of dollars saved in law enforcement resources being wasted haven’t even been calculated yet. You don’t seem to understand math or how positive and negative numbers work. Colorado is raising revenue. No reasonable person is seriously arguing with the success of Colorado at this time.

        There are no problems at all aside from the parasites who were working for the prohibition industry don’t have a future. We just don’t have much need for parasites these days. Education is the cure for all these lies you have been taught.

        • shane

          I’m teling you guys, this SH guy has to be Kevin Sabet or one of his chronies from Project SHAM

          • SH

            What difference does it make who I am?

          • Randy

            Because you are a ignorant person, who can’t look at all the facts and make a reasonable conclusion. I stick with my previous comment that you are stuck in a reefer madness movie.

          • kevin_hunt

            Google: “5 Biggest Lies from Anti-Pot Propagandist Kevin Abraham Sabet-Sharghi By Sunil Aggarwal, M.D., Ph.D.”

        • SH

          I guess first has to be the argument over, does marijuana cause people to use harder drugs later in life. If it does, then you have to calculate the costs associated with all that treatment and such later on. If it doesn’t, well then, I guess if no harm comes from drug use, then its all gravy right? And who exactly are those parasites you speak of?

          • Franklin

            SH there isn’t any argument. The gateway myth was proved false last year. JAMA published the study. I don’t think we need to pretend that it matters. Prohibiton parasites are doing to feed of the federal budget up until the last hour.

            No one has any illusions that someone like yourself is going to be shown any amount of facts to change your mind. That’s nonsense. The facts are out there for anyone who is genuinely looking. The reality is that the people who live off of prohibition are dying off at a far greater rate than those who want it to end. Folks my age are the problem, and we are dying.

            The good news is that our kids and grand kids are immune from propagation because of the circus of political arguing. Its just a bunch of noise. The Internet exposed the truth to everyone. Six out of ten young republicans supports the full legalization of marijuana. You can argue at them all you want but I don’t think it’s going to matter.

      • kevin_hunt

        “The marijuana problem that has been caused by legalization is costing the average taxpayers WAY more than they are bringing in via tax revenues.”?

        Oh….do tell. Let’s see an unbiased account of these supposed ‘costs’. Try to justify your statement without using phony propaganda without quoting the Rocky Mountain DEA

        • SH

          So If i ask for a data source, I get nothing but crickets, but when I provide one contrary to your beliefs, its propaganda? The data wasn’t created by the DEA.

          • saynotohypocrisy

            You didn’t provide a data source in the post Kevin Hunt responded to! All you did was make assertions. You’re a demagogue.

          • kevin_hunt

            “The data wasn’t created by the DEA.”?

            What data? You made the statement that “The marijuana problem that has been caused by legalization is costing the average taxpayers WAY more than they are bringing in via tax revenues.”

            Who has estimated the ‘costs’ of the ‘marijuana problem’ and where do I find this peer-reviewed study?

            “The data wasn’t created by the DEA.”?

            OK, who compiled the data?

      • Randy

        SH – There is no chance of educating you, you are stuck in a refer madness movie and you like being there. I hope you enjoy your chemicals from Big Pharmaceutical companies while I enjoy healing naturally.

  • malcolmkyle

    “. . . the time will come when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship to restrict the art of healing to one class of men and deny equal privileges to others; the Constitution of the Republic should make a Special privilege for medical freedoms as well as religious freedom.” — Benjamin Rush, Founding Father of the U.S.A., and Physician.

    • saynotohypocrisy

      Very interesting quote, thank you!

  • Franklin

    More people are seeing that the sky isn’t falling after all. This a welcome step. But I don’t think we can point out enough that marijuana prohibition ending could take from 5 to 25 years. There is a growing curiosity among the ”lettuce or nothing” appeal of having our beloved plant regulated just like any produce. This idea is predicated on the myth that most of the hard work is over so it’s time to make grass roots stands about the babystepping process.

    The waiting isn’t easy on anyone. That doesn’t excuse anyone from getting caught up in the myth, however tempting, and actually voting against a prohibition ending law because of the details. We can fix anything over time because truth is on our side.

    Marijuana is a not toxic plant that isn’t addictive or harmful for the vast majority of people who enjoy it. At the same time there are well funded prohibiton groups still standing up as public officials like it’s 1935. Our reform groups like MPP, DPA, and NORML, are well researched and they have played a huge part in every reform we have had since Prop 214. Whatever makes ballot or has traction in your legislature of local government is to be supported. We’re still building the foundation of reform.

    Note that we don’t have a single East coast state with an adult retail plan for recreational or social. Look at what happened in Ohio and is happening again in Maine and South Dakota right now. Disqualifying half the ballots over technicalities and opinions on signatures. Note the Ohio cheat itself. RO was not a good plan, but it got 10 per cent more votes than were counted. Polls are off but not by that much.

    We all have that one friend who just stubbornly insists on lettuce or nothing. That is horse manure. Federal will not allow an unregulated system. They have responded to every state with the same set of requirement. Pass it on. The Cole Memo is not one document. It is a reference to summary by the man who bears it’s name of the thousands of pages of questions and replies between every state and DOJ since 1996 when California first enacted medical marijuana.

    Like it or not we have to meet those basic conditions, as they were sent to states and Indian Lands last year. It is a very complex process of working with the DOJ and complying in an ongoing state. I wish it were as simple as crafting the ideal system and gathering enough signatures to put it on a ballot, enough people vote for it and it’s law. Not in the world we live in now. We have made enormous progress in the last 20 years but lets try to remind each other that the battle for education and fear that is being stoked by the government has to be dealt with over time. Reckless movement only slows that process down. If any proposal is better than Prohibition, it’s another brick in our foundation. Let’s welcome it.

    • michael_ellis

      Well said. I agree completely.

    • SH

      How can you say the sky isnt falling? The sky has fallen…more overdoses than ever seen in history! And of those that did not become addicted because of a legitimate prescription, which is a separate problem, how many of them started their drug career with marijuana? Most of them! And why are you always accusing the government of being the ones that are trying to keep this illegal? Most ordinary citizens have always believed it is harmful. You continue to try to polarize the people and our government for your own agenda, causing dissent that shouldn’t exist, at the expense of our great country and its people. I could care less about the politicians, but the people are what makes this country great, and you are ruining it for the rest of us and our children with your confused messaging.

      • A-Pug

        Wrong on multiple accounts. Most of them started their drug “career” with alcohol. And regarding ordinary citizen’s beliefs about the plant, fortunately people are realizing most of what they USED to believe was nothing but government/church-sponsored or approved propaganda, and the information they USED to believe is outdated and unfounded. The fact that every year more cities, counties, and states change their cannabis policies to reflect a widely progressive view about what used to almost universally be regarded as a demon weed contradicts your belief that most citizens still believe it’s terribly dangerous. It’s the PEOPLE who are responsible for these new policies. Do you honestly think the government would decriminalize/legalize it if there wasn’t large amounts of public support driving it?

        • Justin_Auldphart

          A-plug…I would say that all of them started their drug “career” with caffeine which until recently (and maybe even now) was available in schools !!

          • A-Pug

            You’re right and I was actually originally going to put that, but for the sake of the argument I decided to choose something a little more applicable to the particular group of people to which he was referring (recreational drug users). That and I didn’t want to have to explain to them that caffeine is, in fact, a stimulant. I’ve always been of the opinion that alcohol, not cannabis, is the real gateway, and there’s enough evidence to support my belief. On the other hand I don’t think caffeine has led many people to explicity seek out something stronger. I’m sure there are exceptions though.

          • SH

            Perhaps you could share your data source?

      • saynotohypocrisy

        You recommended your own post, confused one?
        Well, what can you expect from someone who doesn’t understand, or pretends not to understand, that alcohol kills 100,000 a year in this country and cannabis related deaths are rare indeed.
        Cannabis prohibition related deaths, well, thats another matter.

        • SH

          So if a person starts using at 13, becomes more prone to drug use because they started at such an early age, and dies of an overdose from something else when they turn 25, is THAT a problem?

          • saynotohypocrisy

            Well of course that would be a problem, so lets ban alcohol since a recent study (reported about on this site on Jan 16) says alcohol is the real gateway drug. Not interested in banning killer alcohol, are you? Just weed.

            There are 100,000 alcohol related deaths in this country each year. Cannabis related deaths are very rare. But you’re way more worried about cannabis than alcohol. Why?

          • SH

            To the exact contrary, I am JUST as worried about alcohol as I am about marijuana. My issue is that along with all this discussion, there is never a word about how to legalize without causing a misperception that early use of ANY drug is harmful. And the data always shows that with each new substance comes a whole new audience of abusers.

          • saynotohypocrisy

            All the recreational cannabis legalization initiatives, every one of them, specifies 21 and up. And many of them earmark some of the revenue raised for drug education.

            Have you heard the argument that prohibition puts distribution in the hands of people willing to sell to kids?
            As they say, “illegal dealers don’t card”.

            You shouldn’t be just as worried about alcohol as weed, you should be far more worried about alcohol, because its use is far more likely to lead to catastrophe. Which is why you don’t want to answer the most important and basic question about alcohol vs. cannabis: How likely is the use of each substance to lead to catastrophe? Stop stonewalling.

            You want more discussion of the dangers of weed? Be honest about how limited those dangers are compared to MEGAKILLERS alcohol, tobacco and prescription opiates

          • saynotohypocrisy

            You sure don’t seem just as worried about alcohol as cannabis. And you should be a lot more worried about alcohol than weed because it is far more likely to cause catastrophe, as I suspect you very well know.
            Cannabis is anything but a new substance, and your only choice is who gets to distribute it: Illegal dealers who might be willing to sell to kids, or regulated, tax paying, job creating businesses that won’t sell to kids..

          • kevin_hunt

            “I am JUST as worried about alcohol as I am about marijuana. “?

            ..and that’s why you are calling for an immediate ban on alcohol, complete with SWAT raids on anyone that might be suspected of brewing beer in their home?

      • http://www.organibliss.com Doc Deadhead

        Why is it that en-educated dicks like you assume that every one who uses cannabis insists on making all the children use it, you sir are an idiot.

        As a cannabis user I always keep my cannabis under lock and key.

        I can’t say that about your booze, you know, the #1 gateway drug in your refrigerator next to the milk your children grab for their cheerios.

        I ask you why do your children grab the milk instead of a beer?

        Parental education. The children were taught its for adults only.

        You are an ass to assume we want to shove pot down our children’s throats when it is YOU who is enabling you children full and unfettered access to the #1 gateway drug in the world.

        You sir, are the problem.

        • SH

          Should I show you the chart that shows that in EVERY state that has legalized, they have the highest incidence of marijuana use amongst kids 12 to 18? Those that have decriminalized see the 2nd highest usage amongst youth.

          • saynotohypocrisy

            Sure, as long as it also includes data on how those states ranked in youth cannabis use BEFORE they legalized or decriminalized, and as long as it also includes corresponding information on youth alcohol use. And you might as well throw in information about youth involvement in catastrophes caused by cannabis or alcohol impairment as well.

        • SH

          I love the youth of our country. I don’t consider myself a problem for that. I personally have ten times more faith in the youth of our country than I do in you and your counterparts condoning adding yet another substance of abuse to the mix.

          • saynotohypocrisy

            How many people does alcohol kill, how many people does cannabis kill? See SH run away from this most basic of questions like all dictatorial prohibitionists do.

          • SH

            Here’s me running…”In Colorado, the number of drivers testing positive for marijuana increased 100
            percent from 2007 to 2012, with marijuana-related fatalities doubling
            from 37 to 78. Traffic fatalities total around 500 a year in the state.” ( Dept of health and Human Services and Medical Examiners Office. And thats just up to 2012…

          • saynotohypocrisy

            What you call marijuana related fatalities are no such thing. As you may or may not know, the test used to detect cannabis measures use from days and weeks ago, which has no more bearing on whether one is currently under the influence than a test that measures alcohol use from days ago.
            How many prosecutions have there been in these 78 so-called marijuana related fatalities?

          • kevin_hunt

            “Traffic fatalities total around 500 a year in the state.””

            Before legalization, there were 677 traffic fatalities in Colorado (2002 data) .

            What do those numbers tell you?

          • saynotohypocrisy

            Those younger Americans you have such faith in are OVERWHELMINGLY in favor of legalizing weed. They see through the prejudice and reefer madness that you embrace. They know that alcohol has a strong link to violence and cannabis has a negative link to violence. Any American who’s even halfway fair minded knows that.

          • SH

            Your data source please?

          • saynotohypocrisy

            Are you serious? Every poll on this subject shows a huge gap between young and old voters.The latest poll on this site is from Florida. When asked about recreational cannabis 61% of 18-34 year olds were in support of legalizing, 25% were opposed, only 24% of 65 and older were in support in this poll. 61% is pretty low compared to most polls I’ll seen. The poll question was quite biased against cannabis, not specifying any age limit.

          • saynotohypocrisy

            “condoning adding yet another substance of abuse to the mix.”

            It’s already in the mix and you can’t do anything about it, there’s no way you can stop people from growing it, and you advocate leaving distribution of cannabis in the hands of people willing to sell to kids.

      • Jon

        You are so misguided. States with medical marijuana see a decrease in prescription drug overdoses. NH’s heroin crisis is because of prescription drugs, opioids, molecularly akin to heroin. Most of these heroin addicts OBVIOUSLY started on pills, NOT marijuana. Maybe if NH had its medical marijuana program up and running years ago, it would not be in this heroin epidemic.

        • SH

          NHs heroin overdoses are NOT just because of prescription drugs, they are due to EVERY drug that people got exposed to years ago, including marijuana AND alcohol. These were the gateways. And when they run low on options or money a person turns to the crap that’s sold on the street, which happens to be mostly Fentanyl, a poison. So maybe we can limit the overdoses NOW by legalizing, but what about the thousands of NEW users that are getting into the gateways now? Most heroin users that didnt start off with a prescription they got hooked on started their drug use off with marijuana. They are BOTH to blame.

          • Jon

            The vast majority of heroin users in this state started out with painkillers. Then the Gov. figured out that people were abusing them, and they effectively made the pills harder to get, and more expensive. These folks turned to heroin, a far cheaper alternative that gave them a similar type of high. I agree that some people started using marijuana and then turned to heroin, same with alcohol. So what? Correlation does not equal causation and there is no data that shows medical marijuana leads to abuse, like you insinuated.
            ” A nationwide study in the United States has found no evidence that
            legalising the use of marijuana for medical purposes leads to increased
            use among teenagers. The study, published in The Lancet Psychiatry Journal
            showed no significant difference in adolescent marijuana use in 21
            states with medical marijuana laws before or after implementation of
            these laws.” -independentcouk

          • kevin_hunt

            “they got hooked on started their drug use off with marijuana. “?

      • Franklin

        SH, you’re terribly confused. The article is discussion is about the non toxic marijuana plant consumed on plant Earth by humans. You can’t overdose on a non toxic plant. That would be called indigestion. Call the poison control center and ask them.

        About 8 out of 10 American support medical marijuana. Easy math can tell that that number outnumbers all the politicians. So try to understand what big government is. There isn’t another topic that even close to this many Americans agree on. Have you ever even visited America. You can’t get half us to agree on anything.

        Most extraordinary citizens know that there is nothing harmful about marijuana that education can’t fix. Prohibition is always dangerous. Study, learn, understand. Look up The Marijuana Majority and see what people outside of Oklahoma have to say.

        The people who invented the device that you are typing on were smoking marijuana while they did it. And you have no comprehension of how that device even works. So, maybe aim a little higher.

        Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak invented the personal computer and founded Apple, while smoking marijuana heavily. A million Silicon Valley programmers, coders, and designers smoke marijuana every day. You’re Prohibition group is a bunch of county deputies, prison guards, and other parasites the feed off our national deficit while playing kick the can around the trailer park. We get it.

        The marijuana group is clearly a few trillion dollars a year more productive. Say thank you and learn.

        • calvet11

          Thank You Sir ! Wise words for everyone to read.

        • SH

          Steve Jobs stated that his use of LSD was one of the most important things he ever did in his life, NOT marijuana. Who’s the confused one. So if you are going to argue that based on Steve Jobs success we should all start taking drugs, then at least stand by the drug he promoted in his statements. Once again, more lies and false attributions in the hopes that no one will check…indeed most people dont. That doesnt make you right though, just a pseudo-intellectual.

          • saynotohypocrisy

            Regarding his marijuana use, Jobs said that it helped him relax and made him more creative. So you’re still out of luck.

        • SH

          He DID in fact smoke weed, but never attributed his success to that. So based on the foundation of your argument you are condoning LSD?

          • Franklin

            Steve Jobs never mentioned LSD. Look up his DOD interview, He said ”I smoked marijuana heavily for creativity”. Then note that the DOD interview was for the already finished personal computer that he was selling to the US Government.

            Steve Wozniak is the largest marijuana reform donor in America today and reportedly still enjoys the plant. Silicon Valley has the highest marijuana usage in the world and also the highest average IQ, and one of the top income levels. We are doing just fine out here.

            LSD has nothing to do with the topic of the marijuana plant. I haven’t seen or heard it since the 1960s. Did notice that SAM followers have been directed to make that association. The problem with the prohibition approach as far as propaganda, is that the weak minds are already following Fox so are all for having more people in prison that any other country. The Marijuana Majority grows larger every day because they just aren’t making those old horse carriages anymore. Every time a prohibitionist dies there is no way to replace them. As the Big Government generation dies off from old age the group opposed to the 21st Century or even science just becomes irrelevant.

            Same thing happened with the automobile in fact. Reds screamed that people were not intended to go that fast and that it would cause every thing they say marijuana causes today. Look it up. When Henry Ford manufactured and started selling the first production line affordable auto, he was breaking Federal law. That car had been denied a license the year before. He knew he was violating an unjust law. Most Americans are thankful that he did.

      • shane

        I figured it out! This has to be Kevin Sabet of Project SHAM using the SH initials to comment. The same message he spits out is exactly what is being said here, hanging on to the reefer madness propaganda and not even knowing actual facts before commenting but just going off of what has been told as lies since the 60’s, hell even longer. Studies have already proven alchohol is a gateway drug and cannabis is not. The dealer is also the gateway cause they would rather get you hooked on something they know you would kill your grandmother for to support the habit and that is definitely not cannabis. The whole “It’s about the children”, routine is BS too cause no one has evere been asked for an I.D. by a drug dealer. One more thing, if uour child ever watches any sports on television or prime time shows, they are watching commercials glorifying alchohol use while telling them to drink responsibly, now that is a confusing message. I would much rather my childuse cannabis over any other substance if I am faced with that situation. Do us all a favor and educate yourself, their are thousands of studies contradicting everything you were taught about the demon weed. Cannabis does not even affect the same parts of the brain as alchohol and opiates so the theory of gateway drug is completely BS.

      • kevin_hunt

        “And why are you always accusing the government of being the ones that are trying to keep this illegal?”

        Because the government spends millions of dollars per year using the DEA and ONDCP to lobby against legalization, that’s why.

        The ‘Gateway’ myth was invented by Robert DuPont to ensure a steady stream of business for his pee testing industry.

        Marijuana is not a “gateway” drug that predicts or eventually leads to substance abuse, suggests a 12-year University of Pittsburgh study. Moreover, the study’s findings call into question the long-held belief that has shaped prevention efforts and governmental policy for six decades

        University of Pittsburgh Medical Center. “No ‘Smoking’ Gun: Research Indicates Teen Marijuana Use Does Not Predict Drug, Alcohol Abuse.” ScienceDaily, 4 Dec. 2006. Web. 17 Jan. 2013.

      • calvet11

        NO. Most ordinary citizens have not always believed it to be harmful. Most is at best a meaningless word in this case. What doe’s most mean? The old “started with marijuana” ploy. Before that it was alcohol, before that it was tobacco, before that coffee, ext. ext. SH, please read a up to date book on cannabis.

        • SH

          ect., ect.

          • calvet11

            Just another jerk.

          • A-Pug

            Etc., etc.

          • Randy

            SH – You really are arguing just to argue. Your facts are outdated, you refuse to give details on your data. You are just an ignorant troll looking to argue and your not willing to actually look at the facts. You have a nice life, I know I will.

      • Danny Hoardern

        Lol, thank-you for more evidence that you are, unfortunately, delusional – the latest studies of 2016 (one being a large twin study) show there is no detriment to usage… so funny (yet so sad) to come across someone that genuinely thinks the sky has fallen in Colorado. Can only be you, Kevin Sabet? Glad to see the other participants here can spot the BS! Hysteria over overdoses……..having a nap…woah watch out for those nappers, they are outta control!!! lol.

        SH is one that misunderstand correlation and causation – SH: does an anti-psychotic (cannabis) cause psychosis?

        • SH

          What study might that be? Care to share your data source?

        • SH

          “Compared with those who never used cannabis, individuals who mostly used
          skunk-like cannabis were nearly twice as likely to be diagnosed with a
          psychotic disorder if they used it less than once per week… almost
          three times as likely if they used it at weekends… and more than five
          times as likely if they were daily users…” (nstitute of Psychiatry at King’s College London)

          • Danny Hoardern

            Noted that you avoided the point of cannabis being an anti-psychotic – was this on purpose?

            Do you think those that take heavier doses of prescription anti-psychotics are more likely to have been diagnosed with a psychotic disorder?

            Correlation vs causation: it’s tricky

          • kevin_hunt

            Research from Harvard Medical School, in a comparison between families with a history of schizophrenia and those without, finds little support for marijuana use as a cause of schizophrenia.

            “The results of the current study suggest that having an increased familial morbid risk for schizophrenia may be the underlying basis for schizophrenia in cannabis users and not cannabis use by itself,” note the researchers.

            The research was published in December 2013 in Schizophrenia Research.

          • Randy

            What year did this come out?

      • kevin_hunt

        ” And why are you always accusing the government of being the ones that are trying to keep this illegal? ”

        The evidence that the government is to blame for keeping pot illegal is overwhelming. Law Enforcement lobbyists are constantly fighting against decriminalization. The drug czar is required by law to oppose all attempts at legalization. Committee chairs in Congress won’t let legalization bills come to a vote. Pharma, Prison, Alcohol, and Tobacco industries ALL give millions of dollars in legal bribes to our elected representatives in order to maintain the status quo of criminalization.

        To argue otherwise is delusional, ignorant, or dishonest,

        “and you are ruining it for the rest of us and our children with your confused messaging.”?

        Confused messaging…like ‘drugs are bad’, but go ahead and take this Ritalin, Adderall, Prozac, etc.

        Or, confused messaging….like “hemp is a schedule I narcotic’.

        Or, ‘drugs are bad’, but ‘Coors Lite won’t slow you down’.

  • Dizcuzted

    If the substance is safer than alcohol, why are they penalizing it at all? Not that I’m complaining they’re moving in the correct direction, but c’mon. Either decriminalize it, or legalize it. What they’re doing isn’t decriminalization, it’s rescheduling, or downgrading an offense.

    • SH

      The law is admitting that there are enough of you making poor decisions that the average non-using taxpayer cant afford to continue to pay for your mistakes. Thats what decriminalization is…its forcing the violator to help pay for their own mistake.

      • Dizcuzted

        Nice wharrblgarble there. You’re really knocking it out of the nonsense park.

        • saynotohypocrisy

          He sure is.

        • SH

          Whats the nonsense part?

          • Randy

            SH – Most of what you say is nonsense, if you really wanted to understand both sides of the argument, you would look up new research on marijuana, not the 1950s government bullshit from the Drug Czar.

      • A-Pug

        So it’s the government’s job to dictate what “poor decisions” and “mistakes” are regarding personal choices, and making people pay accordingly? Again – for their personal choices? Where is the line drawn? I’m sorry, but you seem to be misinformed as to why it’s illegal in the first place. And how is marijuana being far less harmful than alcohol not a justifiable argument, especially when it has an ever-growing list of benefits and uses?

      • Jon

        The taxpayer rarely pays for marijuana violations as is. Even though it is a misdemeanor to even posses small amounts of pot, who actually gets thrown in jail for it in NH? No one, besides repeat offenders who were dumb enough to get caught more than once. May as well decriminalize it. It is a good idea, I think, to have laws that reflect the way it is seen by the public, and treated by the law.

        • http://www.organibliss.com Doc Deadhead

          People are being thrown in jail for it everywhere all the time, wtf?

          Go up to a cop with some pot and see if your ass don’t get thrown in jail.

          You are the clueless one to think no one is going to jail for pot. If no one was going to jail we wouldn’t be seeking legalization.

          And yes the taxpayer pays for the incarceration and legal expenses(public defender, duh) of cannabis offenders. As clueless as you sound you probably don’t know that all fines for misdemeanors go to the public library, not to the county jail to pay for your lunch while you are waiting for bail.

          Please don’t comment on here until you educate your self far enough “to have a clue”.

          • Jon

            Nope. It depends on the state/area. Obviously if you go up to a cop and act flamboyant about it you will be thrown in jail. And yeah, even if you are not obvious about it, and you get caught, they will take your weed, but there is little chance you will go to jail (other than in certain areas and if you are a minority). I actually live in NH and I know what I’m talking about. They are not seeking legalization they are seeking decriminalization; big difference; and if you don’t know the difference then you are pretty clueless.

            “About 750,000 people are arrested every year for marijuana offenses in
            the U.S. There’s a lot of variation across states in what happens next.
            Not all arrests lead to prosecutions, and relatively few people
            prosecuted and convicted of simple possession end up in jail. Most are
            fined or are placed into community supervision. About 40,000
            inmates of state and federal prison have a current conviction involving
            marijuana, and about half of them are in for marijuana offenses alone;
            most of these were involved in distribution. Less than one percent are
            in for possession alone.”- Rolling Stones.

          • http://www.organibliss.com Doc Deadhead

            Haters gonna hate

          • Jon

            Not sure what you mean by that but you seem to not understand that simple possession rarely leads to actual jail time (unless you are black, sadly). It’s really a common misconception. If you are a dealer, then yes, it does.

          • http://www.organibliss.com Doc Deadhead

            Okay so you think it’s okay to jail black folks?

          • Jon

            Obviously that is not what I said. But NH has very few black people.

          • http://www.organibliss.com Doc Deadhead

            That’s exactly what you want. You want us to be jailed or fined, especially the black folks for a harmless substance.

            As long as you want cannabis illegal you are agreeing to the persecution of the blacks.

            Cannabis was made schedule 1 by Nixon, ON THE TAPES he says, “I want that at schedule 1, I want to really kick them in the ass, this will get the blacks off the streets and the Jews too, those street performers are all Jews, this will get them off the streets too.”

            Put on the schedules list by a racist and you want it kept there so do you agree with the racist pig Nixon?

            This is a public health matter, not a law enforcement matter.

            You cannot incarcerate the end user to eliminate a situation.

          • Jon

            Where did you get that? I never said that. I don’t think marijuana should be illegal. I know just as much as you do, if not more, about the history of marijuana prohibition in the U.S. I agree that Nixon was a horrible person.

          • David Murray

            Not from what I’ve seen.

          • SH

            If they are being thrown in jail its because they had too much on them or were distributing, if you’re in a state that’s decriminalized. That’s what we are talking about here, decriminalization. Decriminalization makes it a civil offense for a certain amount, punishable by fines, not jail. And Im well aware that fines associated with one organization do not necessarily go to that same organization, but they do all effect state budgets as a whole. If i take money out of my left pocket instead of my right, its still my money.

          • Jon

            Do you know anyone who has done jail-time within the last 5 years for simple possession?

          • kevin_hunt

            Louisianan Given 13-Year Prison Sentence for Possession of Two Marijuana Cigarettes

            NEW ORLEANS—The Drug Policy Alliance filed an amicus brief in 2014 urging the Louisiana Supreme Court to review the egregious prison sentence of Bernard Noble, a 48-year old man who was sentenced to 13.3 years of hard labor in prison without the opportunity for parole for possessing the equivalent of two marijuana cigarettes.

            Noble’s original sentencing judge considered the 13 and a third-year sentence egregious and imposed a sentence of five years of hard labor. But the Orleans Parish District Attorney wasn’t satisfied with this punishment and appealed the sentence. Ultimately, the district attorney sought and obtained a prison term of close to triple the sentence imposed by the original sentencing judge.

          • Jon

            Sorry, I meant in the state of New Hampshire. I should of clarified. It doesn’t surprise me that a extremely conservative state like Louisiana would do that.

          • kevin_hunt

            You may be right about that. How about someone who grows a few plants for personal consumption? Does anyone in NH go to jail for that?

          • Jon

            Yes, they could easily for that.

          • kevin_hunt

            Ok…so what we have here is a system that is rigged to support the black market. Growers and dealers take the risk, so the consumers don’t have to.

            If growing your own was a misdemeanor and buying it was a felony, the Mexican cartels wouldn’t sell pot.

          • Jon

            Yeah exactly. Makes sense, though, that it is a felony to grow pot, and buying it the less serious crime. From their standpoint, if you grow you probably sell.

        • Randy

          Then it should be treated like any other plant that we grow in our gardens.

          • SH

            Like mushrooms or psilocybins? How about cocaine? Is heroin not made from a naturally occuring substance called opium?

          • kevin_hunt

            It’s not illegal to grow opium poppies (papaver somniferum).

      • Randy

        SH – Get your facts straight, the decriminalization of marijuana that is going on here and around the world is happening because of support by the majority of adults.
        Read some scientific data about marijuana more recent than 1950 and then tell me specifically what about marijuana is bad for you.

  • SH

    “This is commonsense marijuana policy reform,” said Matt Simon, New England political director for the Marijuana Policy Project. “It is irrational to brand people as criminals simply for possessing a substance that is safer than alcohol.”
    The law is not saying that users aren’t criminals. Its saying that the responsibility for paying for some of the poor decisions people make should not be entirely shouldered by the average, non-using taxpayer. So instead they are fining the users to help pay for their own mistakes.
    I love how these people are constantly trying to confuse others by misinterpreting whats happening in the media to suit their own agenda. You should be ashamed! I could care less what choices you make as an adult, but stop confusing our children by saying marijuana is not harmful. ALL drugs are harmful, including alcohol. And god please stop using the argument that if alcohol is legal, then weed should be too. Why would we just add one more thing to the list of harmful substances???. This is why we have such a massive drug problem. We have just as much of a problem with alcohol as we do with other drugs.

    • saynotohypocrisy

      You might have a good point if weed was as dangerous as alcohol, or anywhere close to alcohol in its dangers. But we have far, far more of a problem with alcohol than we do with weed, and that would be true even if equal numbers of people used the two substances.
      How many people does alcohol kill? How many does cannabis kill?
      How can we make wise policy if we don’t ask such basic questions? Why should I take you seriously if you won’t answer it?
      I’m waiting for your answer.

      • saynotohypocrisy

        Thanks for the typical prohib stonewall, SH. I can see you don’t give a shit whether we have wise policy or not.

    • Jon

      If you want to think marijuana users are criminals, go ahead, I don’t care and no one who uses it cares (by the way, I do not). This decriminalization bill is the logical legal response to marijuana. The fact is, most people don’t care if it is legal or not; they will use whether it is decriminalized or not. So the question is, do we want to save some taxpayer money? Yes we do. Or, we can keep the criminalization on the books– and waste taxpayer money– to deter people from using it (even though it doesn’t do that in any way).

    • kevin_hunt

      “I could care less what choices you make as an adult,”?

      Obviously you do, since you want to keep weed illegal.

    • David Murray

      Sorry but you don’t get to choose how people defend Cannabis use. The comparison to alcohol is completely warranted and justified. After all, how can you send the message to kids that alcohol, a known killer, is legal. While Cannabis, not known to kill anyone, is illegal.

  • Jon

    NH has, for years now, repeatably introduced decriminalization bills. This was the case last year, and the year before than, and the year before that, and the year before that, and… you get the idea. It always passes the House, but the Senate kills it everything. I wont be holding my breath for this one. The national elections have shinned a spotlight on the state’s heroin problem, and I bet the Senate will say “we should not decriminalize when we have a drug crisis as it is” failing to see that there is no correlation. At least they will have medical marijuana dispensaries this spring. Hopefully heroin use goes down after that. http://www.alternet.org/drugs/states-have-medical-marijuana-have-lower-rates-heroin-and-painkiller-overdoses

  • Jon

    NH has, for years now, repeatably introduced decriminalization bills.
    This was the case last year, and the year before than, and the year
    before that, and the year before that, and… you get the idea. It
    always passes the House, but the Senate kills it everything. I wont be
    holding my breath for this one. The national elections have shinned a
    spotlight on the state’s heroin problem, and I bet the Senate will say
    “we should not decriminalize when we have a drug crisis as it is”
    failing to see that there is no correlation. At least they will have
    medical marijuana dispensaries this spring. Hopefully heroin use goes
    down after that.

  • kevin_hunt

    Pass this bill!

  • SH

    This would be a much more challenging argument if we would all start citing our data sources. Im just as guilty. I would be perfectly willing to concede if a legitimate data source was cited telling me that marijuana is not one of the most prevalent drugs of abuse in youth, that is what not one of the clearest gateways to long term drug abuse, TO INCLUDE alcohol and the other gateways.

    • kevin_hunt

      A study in the August 2012 edition of The Journal of School Health finds that the generations old theory of a “gateway drug” effect is in fact accurate for some drug users, but shifts the blame for those addicts’ escalating substance abuse away from marijuana and onto the most pervasive and socially accepted drug in American life: alcohol.

      Using a nationally representative sample from the University of Michigan’s annual Monitoring the Future survey, the study blasts holes in drug war orthodoxy wide enough to drive a truck through, definitively proving that marijuana use is not the primary indicator of whether a person will move on to more dangerous substances.

    • saynotohypocrisy

      My source for the 100,000 alcohol related deaths a year is the Centers for Disease Control. As far as I can tell they don’t have a number for cannabis related deaths.
      You want the law to force people to use alcohol if they want to get a buzz??? How is that supposed to promote public health? You know what alcohol does to some people, it turns them into domestic terrorists.

      Your .definition of cannabis related traffic fatalities in Colorado is bogus, you’re confusing someone who used sometime in the previous days or weeks with someone who was under the influence at the time of the accident.

    • malcolmkyle

      SH, you owe the rest of us answers to the following questions:

      #1. Why are you not concerned with the fact that we have all been stripped of our unalienable rights, leaving us totally subordinate to a corporatized, despotic government and a heavily armed and corrupt, militarized police force whose often deadly intrusions into our homes and lives are condoned by an equally corrupt and spineless judiciary?

      #2. Why do you wish to continue to spend $50 billion a year to prosecute and cage your fellow citizens for choosing substances which are not more dangerous than those of which you yourself probably use and approve of, such as alcohol and tobacco?

      #3. Do you honestly expect the rest of us to look on passively while you waste another trillion dollars on this ruinously expensive garbage policy?

      #4. Why are you waging war on your own family, friends and neighbors?

      #5. Why are you so complacent with the fact that our once ‘proud and free’ nation now has the largest percentage of it’s citizenry incarcerated than any other on the entire planet?

      #6. Why are you helping to fuel a budget crisis to the point of closing hospitals, schools and libraries?

      #7. Why do you wish to continue spending precious resources on prohibition related undercover work while rapists and murderers walk free, while additionally, many cases involving murder and rape do not even get taken to trial because law enforcement priorities are subverted by your beloved failed and dangerous policy?

      #8. Why are you a supporter of the ‘prison industrial complex’ to the extent of endangering our nation’s children?

      #9. Will you graciously applaud when, due to your own incipient and authoritarian approach, even your own child is caged and raped?

      * It is estimated that there are over 300,000 instances of prison rape a year.
* 196,000 are estimated to happen to men in prison.
* 123,000 are estimated to happen to men in county jail.
* 40,000 are estimated to be committed against boys in either adult prisons or while in juvenile facilities or lock ups.
* 5000 women are estimated to be raped in prison.

      #10. How much worse does it have to get before you’re able to read the paintings on the wall of your cave?