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Oregon Employers Will Still Drug Test For Marijuana, Even After Legalization

A question I get asked all the time is ‘can I still be fired for smoking marijuana, even if I live in a state that legalized marijuana?’ The quick answer is yes, employers can still fire you for marijuana, even if your state has legalized marijuana. Does that mean that each and every employer will fire every marijuana consumer for a failed drug test? Of course not. Not all employers drug test, and some will no doubt update their drug testing policy to exclude marijuana. However, be aware that due to the fact that employers can hide behind federal law, they can still fire you even though marijuana is legal to consume within some states. Oregon is no exception. Russ Belville gives a great breakdown in the video below:

Related info: How To Pass A Drug Test When You Smoke Marijuana

  • claygooding

    A little boycotting goes a long ways.

    • claygooding

      Set up a site and start reporting any companies that are not on government contracts requiring drug screening and quit buying their products,,make it clear to business owners that are not forced into drug screening that prohibition is over.

      • Mi-Cree-Ni Quash-Mah

        THIS IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CLAYGOOD HAS STARTED IT LETS JUMP ON AND SEE IF WE CAN BREAK THE SWING SET
        personally I’d love to have a job that paid me money I am boycotting everything until next spring as long as I don’t run out of pot the world is safe ……from me….. if I had a job I could buy more pot and I would not be so dependent of the weather. hey how about a social service that provides cannabis like food stamps for the poor. yeah lett all the people that want to stay home an smoke pot while the rest of the world goes corporate slaves to support the folks that want to smoke pot. end all other commerce. no travel unless by dog sled and wagon and only if your dogs are stoned too1

  • Scott Eaton

    BOYCOTT COMPANIES THAT DRUG TEST……That will fix their ass ! No employee’s ? No out put……..No company……It’s that simple

    • Ron

      Hope TWB will provide us an ongoing list of the transgressors. Nordstroms will be a good start.

      • been there

        Flying J gas stations places flyers in their window when advertising for help and state they do hair testing. I’ll pay the extra two cents/gal to avoid them.

      • Mi-Cree-Ni Quash-Mah

        CHRISTMAS IS THE FIRST CORPORATION

    • Mi-Cree-Ni Quash-Mah

      RIGHT FUCKING ON lets BOYCOTT MONEY

      GO BARTER WITH CANNABIS

  • Even Federal rules do not require drug testing for employment. The least restrictive policy allowed is testing for cause in case of an accident. At least that was the policy at the beginning of the drug testing era in the 80s.

    • Mi-Cree-Ni Quash-Mah

      you are correct again SImon it is the insurance companies that restrict machine operation in the work place…
      solution is to stop working for corporations that require that kind of insurance….. simple yes a life changing choice you will not be attractive to employers that do not support medical cannabis………so hire non- licensed for cannabis operators of machinery?…….THINGS ARE CHANGING simple interesting business niches like providing delivery VIA bicycle, local crops for local folks, is it safe for me to smoke a joint and cut firewood? maybe I should be paranoid about the sky falling………but I would not drink a six pack of beer and cut firewood ….but you might?

  • Denny

    I understand a prevalent mindset that insists you can use it and not be too impaired to do your job.
    But would you really want to work at a business where everyone was using marijuana throughout the entire work day?
    At some point we need to view things from an employer’s perspective.

    • stellarvoyager

      Read the article. The issue raised is the use of marijuana outside of the workplace, and the expectation to be able to not have your employer dictating how you relax on your own time.

      “At some point we need to view things from an employer’s perspective”? The employer’s perspective is usually the ONLY perspective that is ever considered when it comes to passing laws and regulations in this country.

      • Denny

        I read the article, so you might want to re-read my response to it.
        I fully understand that people in several states can legally use marijuana along with those who use it in state’s where it have been approved medicinal reasons, and they can do it off the job.
        However, if the residual affects appear to impair one’s job performance an employer should have the option to order a drug test.
        The assumption that it’s OK to consume it at night and go to work at any profession is irresponsible.
        I’ll pose a question to you: Would you feel comfortable having optical or heart surgery performed by a doctor who was high last night?
        I’m also aware of many of the research studies performed offshore that offer initial evidence about various health benefits from use, but the credibility of too many of them are questionable because they don’t offer any specific information about the participants, in particular their health status prior to entering the study and their overall health status afterwards.
        We can pee on each others leg all day, but the bottom line here is the need for clear, credible education for the general public.
        Sniping at one another isn’t likely to persuade any sidelines-setter to support us.
        When people ask legitimate questions, even ones that might somewhat annoy us, we need to offer a lucid, logical response if we hope to eventually gain their support, or at least minimize their opposition.

        • moldy

          “The assumption that it’s OK to consume it at night and go to work at any profession is irresponsible.”
          What the hell are you talking about? It must be your assumption that people can’t function at work after smoking weed the night before. I’ve haven’t seen any studies that show impairment the next morning. We can’t have a “lucid” conversation when you’re pulling statements out of your ass.

          • ted mishler

            I have not seen myself perform any task poorly after toking up, so why is it that you feel that cannabis use impairs, rather than enhances the work experience for everyone?
            If employers have employees that are not meeting their quotas, or their work is sub par, then they should be fired, as they are not doing their job as they should, there is no need to fire the people that find benefit from cannabis use, on and off the workplace as long as they meet their quotas, and all
            study negative thc beam test verses positive beam test rotation in degrees
            then ask yourself, why do some people experience drowsiness, verses alertness, and you will find that not only cdb is to blame, but a negative rotation
            the concept might be hard for you to understand, but instead of your flippant attitude, think about it

        • Mi-Cree-Ni Quash-Mah

          you really don’t want cannabis used do you DENNY………..is it because you are afraid of drunks?
          there are probably plenty of open heart surgeons that smoke and cut all day honey you just don’t know and with your attitude you never will because people will not be honest with you cause they will loose their job. incidentally FRUIT BREEZE RS mask the urine tests for cannabis. now you can be truly afraid because sporadic use cause accidents.

        • Ted Mishler

          Denny, you are assuming that cannabis use is a bad negative thing, that has no benefit mentally, and physically in any work scenario, you are brainwashed, and you are wrong.
          Learn.
          Your kind is why ignorance flourishes so in the usa that loves to spit on the cannabis community, you idiot, what ever you are doing, perhaps you are drinking alcohol? pills? maybe you are mentally challenged? whatever your reason, maybe you have not had the strain to convince you the I am correct, but your ignorance is typical of the common people, why do you wish to assume the mentallity of the war loving common for?
          How can you sit there and think that slavery and crimes against humanity is acceptable?
          I say you and people like you are the problem in this world, you wish to ride freely on the backs of those that you benefit from, and you deserve nothing but the punishment you enjoy giving to the cannabis community.
          You probably have some good in you some where, why not explore that part of you and expand on that

      • Brion Eduardo

        Your employer can only control what you do as long as you work for that employer. You have the freedom to work for an employer who doesn’t give a hoot what you do on your own time. Your free will is yours to use. Or not.

        • stellarvoyager

          So you think it’s OK for employers to be able to discriminate on the basis of things that are completely unrelated to job performance? Maybe we should allow racial discrimination, or age discrimination (which is happening anyway), or discrimination based on disability or genetics. Should employers also have the right to exclude military veterans? Or Christians? That’s not freedom, it is authoritarianism on the part of your employer. That’s like saying you have the “freedom” to starve if you can’t eat the food that is served (say, due to an allergy), so just use your “free will” and choose to starve.

          Being employed by someone doesn’t mean that they have ownership over you at all hours of the day and night. It simply means that you perform a specific job for them, and they compensate you for the work that you do.

    • Sinclair

      First Dennyyou probably don’t use Marijuana or you would know that the stays in your body for a month. So even if you smoked once and got tested your fired. Not everyone burns morning, noon and night. As to your reasoning that everyone is high on the job that amount is equally as important as a person who drinks morning, noon and night.since you did not comment on that fact and since you are on the weed blog maybe that is you. One other thing which person would be safer to work with

      • Denny

        Actually, I use it legally/medicinally and have for years, so you initial assumption is wrong.
        I also fully understand the 30-day issue.
        I merely posed a hypothetical question that was not answer answered.
        Your assumption about alcohol is 100% off base because I’ve been a designated driver since high school.
        I just never cared for alcohol and rarely have a drink, but it doesn’t bother me unless it’s to excess and they attempt to drive.
        If you want to mix apples and oranges then good job.
        I didn’t mention alcohol in this post because we’re discussing marijuana.
        But to answer your query I wouldn’t want to work with any impaired person regardless of the cause.

        • Sinclair

          Denney First sorry about the alcohol / weed comment I was looking for something clarity in your post.so I was being a little vague. To relate to your post everything in excess is not healthy. I don’t even use Marijuana I just believe I should have a choice. I also am not a fan of alcohol but once in a while a ice cold beer is nice or a real (good ) tequila shot is good.But only at home. I am a D.D to. If I did use Marijuana it was at night to sleep I do not sleep well I am against sleep pills and do not ever take narcotic pain pills. I have a severe bad back and only take advice I am not a medical Marijuana user nor am I registered Michigan does not protect our jobs for med Marijuana. Which is the reason for my comments. A legal user should have job protection because of testing. I am not talking about being high or drunk on the job. They should be fired.what I or any person does when not working is no concern for employers.

      • Mi-Cree-Ni Quash-Mah

        if your habits of safety are good no change will occur from cannabis once saturation is reached but anything in between and yes you are playing with danger.
        like say a weekend user… they get high and release all their tension……CRASH…. not the cannabis but the sudden lack of TENSION cause the crash or the accident or the INATTENTION
        so if and when you stay SATURATED in HOMEOSTASIS and at your best.

    • moldy

      “I understand a prevalent mindset that insists you can use it and not be too impaired to do your job.”
      Who’s mindset is that? Responsible cannabis consumers know that work and weed doesn’t mix. Maybe you’re referring to the employer’s mindset about the mindset of stoners?

      • Mi-Cree-Ni Quash-Mah

        hey Moldy: your not smoking enough if you ever come down once your saturated there is no psychotropic……..say there in that Homeostasis state and see how much fucking work you get done but WARNING set work limits in advance. I have a blend I call SLave driver and it is. working in the Yoncolla valley in the summer heat maybe 90 to 110 degrees outside sweat like a water faucet. smoke some emerald triangle blended compound and work all day even longer

      • Ted Mishler

        Whats wrong with you?
        Have you lost the ability to think at all?
        Some people know that a thc beam test does not always indicate a negative rotation, but some strains cause positive rotations, much like some strains reduce awareness, while others increase awareness and job performance.
        It would be interesting to see the so called stoners challenge non stoners in a game of endurance, just to see the non cannabis users struggle, while those who benefit from cannabis would excel every-time.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9CpCQNH3uw

        and the mountains depart from those
        who uses cannabis for their ills so the story of Jesus goes.

      • Bongstar420

        Responsible people judge on a continual basis. I have called off work tasks due to impairment when I was completely sober. Its called being responsible, and being sober has little to do with that per se.

      • ted mishler

        responsible cannabis consumers who know how to control their own space sip in regards to cannabis use for medical, spiritual and general well being, know that cannabis use for them is integral to a great day, at work, at home, where ever, and being that it is integral form my own well being, I fail to understand how your failure to enjoy a higher plane of existance in your life at your workplace is any indication of achieving higher minded intended thought :-)

      • Lucaa4229

        Copied the excerpt below from a reply I made above since it’s very in line with your post. The fact of the matter is that I agree in setting the boundaries up so that work and play do not mix. If anything, this would encourage the responsible use of the substance. The trick is to use alcohol as a precedent if we want legalization to become a reality. Sober and productive at work? You check out. Wreaking of weed/alcohol or visibly impaired on the job? You can leave. Simple as that. If you’re an experienced toker and you know that you are able to do your job fine while high and you make sure to do your best to hide it by using vapes, eye drops, etc then you should be fine as well since your employer shouldn’t be able to notice a difference in your demeanor or productivity.

        “But you wouldn’t use it during your entire day! Being high while on the job is like being drunk on the job. You’re simply not your sober self. I love to smoke. I smoke everyday, in fact. But I NEVER smoke on the job. I smoke at night, after my day is just about done, about 95% of the time. Obviously there are times when I smoke during the day but those are usually once in a blue during a day off, on vacation, etc. The worst I’ll do is smoke several hours before a shift so I know I won’t be high anymore by the time my shift comes – and that’s once every few months. I would have no problem if they created a device that tests how high you are at that moment and based a law around that which says you can’t be actively “high” on the job or while driving. If we really want the law to change then we have to make concessions – we can’t have it all. We have to use it responsibly and show that we can remain productive while being a smoker. If it became legal it would be on the same level as alcohol and employers don’t fire for alcohol use unless you are visibly drunk on the job. The same code should be used for marijuana if it were legalized.”

    • Uncle Arthur

      You are kidding me, right. Everything in the US is employer and corporate centric. How about a fresh perspective if that’s not asking much. In the US, employers act like the employee should get down on all fours and grovel for and be great full for work at the most minimal wage and enjoy the drudgery. In the US where the two major parties serve corporate interests, there’s no real Labor party or Worker’s Party to speak out on behalf of working people like they have in parts of Europe and Latin America, so it’s no wonder employers can engage in collective punishment tactics like blanket pre-requisite drug tests that look for only one thing — that’s right, cannabis. I’m not mad at you Denny, but I’m mad that people (in general) keep parroting corporate state talking points. I trade my hours for dollars, not my body or my body fluids. America needs workplace democracy and progressive forward thinking employers, not pimps.

      • Brion Eduardo

        You have the freedom to work for an employer that doesn’t test for marijuana. What’s stopping you from using that freedom.

        • stellarvoyager

          The lack of employers who don’t test for marijuana.

        • Bongstar420

          And the employers are answering to who for the same standards?

    • Mi-Cree-Ni Quash-Mah

      yes I would and do…….I would like it if when we went into court everyone would be offered a nice big joint before the proceeding begin.
      smoking before during and after intercourse.
      smoke enough to where no one could tell a false hood.

      • Bongstar420

        It would give me an enormous advantage. That is a certainty.

        HUGE

    • This is about drug testing, not using at work. Pay attention!

      • Bongstar420

        Correct. Its about firing or not hiring people for their off the job consumption habits.

        So, how long till we accept kosher and halal testing as a legitimate “pre-employment” screening?

    • Bongstar420

      I am usually high. Most people don’t notice due to my high IQ. Big words properly used with a high degree of physical coordination really puts people off about me being on drugs.

    • Ted Mishler

      yes, i would:-)

    • Lucaa4229

      But you wouldn’t use it during your entire day! Being high while on the job is like being drunk on the job. You’re simply not your sober self. I love to smoke. I smoke everyday, in fact. But I NEVER smoke on the job. I smoke at night, after my day is just about done, about 95% of the time. Obviously there are times when I smoke during the day but those are usually once in a blue during a day off, on vacation, etc. The worst I’ll do is smoke several hours before a shift so I know I won’t be high anymore by the time my shift comes – and that’s once every few months. I would have no problem if they created a device that tests how high you are at that moment and based a law around that which says you can’t be actively “high” on the job or while driving. If we really want the law to change then we have to make concessions – we can’t have it all. We have to use it responsibly and show that we can remain productive while being a smoker. If it became legal it would be on the same level as alcohol and employers don’t fire for alcohol use unless you are visibly drunk on the job. The same code should be used for marijuana if it were legalized.

  • Sinclair

    This is so wrong. If they can test for that then they can fire you for that where is the protection. More laws need to be fixed.

    • ted mishler

      let them maintain that hate for us is ok, that way, we then have the right to hire only those who test positive for cannabis, and lets face it, we win that way, no sickly employees, no drama queens, no emotional sadness that riddles the so called normal way of existence, no gossiping and the like, togetherness, let the discrimination continue!
      :-)

      • Bongstar420

        BINGO. As long as you do a good job….It is ALL GOOD (your food lifestyle that is, drugs are food-foods are drugs)

    • Brion Eduardo

      Freedom goes both ways.

  • ted mishler

    It seems to me to be fair to everyone’s rights
    that employers then to have the right to only hire those who test positive, its only right
    lets just watch their hate back fire
    when it is the cannabis haters and haters of constitutional rights for everyone gets them selves fired

  • ted mishler

    if i ever become an employer, i would like to discriminate
    i’d much rather not hire those into hating everything, and everyone

    • Bongstar420

      What they are doing is actually illegal. They just don’t know it because it is an accepted cultural norm.

      Employers are actually restricted to performance only standards by law. It just so happens that laws don’t matter if no one cares to enforce them or objectively understand them.

  • Boycott Companies Who Test. Pretty Simple. Vote With Money.

  • Mi-Cree-Ni Quash-Mah

    in my company I require drug testing and if your caught NOT STONED you will be escorted away from the premise imeadiatly .. unless your willing to smoke or at least VAPE course I am the only one working here so I escort myself all time I think I need some legislation or maybe a survey or study hey maybe a pill that would insure I test positive……….that way if every one that smokes ever just takes a pill the test would be dysfunctional….. oh hey fuck work… just smoke an grow let it all find a grounding and slow down…. and when the suits come for their share give them some stems. heres the way I see it …if you make it legal they will make you pay more for it ….if you make it illegal they will make you pay more for it ….if you just learn to grow it yourself or maybe your neighbor……you could have 4 10 pound plants in your back yard by the end of next summer unless you get distracted talking and forget to water. smoke at home and in private your are not private at work or in your car you are public so violate the NO VISUAL LAW and you should get busted like totally Not for public viewing . stop looking for ways to control a vegetable vegetable are for eating mmmand smokin ever have smoked carrots and potatoes with chunks of beef on a skewer.
    Oh and what the hell is a cannabis cookie if it is not made from Cannabis flour not flower.
    made some brownies out of cannabis flour with just a little tapioca powder to get the dough to set and man I think I may give up smokin all together and just eat cookies.

    • zeus

      What the fuck did you just say? I can’t comprehend it.

      • Bongstar420

        Get in line.

        Its like trying to explain enthalpy to coco the chimp.

        • Jared

          Coco is a gorilla, not a chimpanzee. :)

    • Bongstar420

      I will stick to impairment only standards thank you very much. Its not worth loosing the talent in order to reinforce some cultural norm.

  • The ACLU did a study on drug testing https://www.aclu.org/files/FilesPDFs/drugtesting.pdf
    A study they refer to says pre-employment testing in high tech lowers productivity 16%. Random continuous testing lowers productivity 29%.

    • The Dude

      I bet the constant gestopo fear also increases disability too.

  • sharpss

    Eventually we will drag the idiots into the modern world. Maybe until then we should put something in the water that would cause a positive test on everyone. They would have a little trouble firing every worker in an entire state.

    • Bongstar420

      Are you sure about that? Most medical users are complaining about their pot not being flavored enough or producing the choice high. They complain about prices as if they need to get high all day long every day.

      It seems pretty idiotic to confuse recreation with medicine.

  • Newstead

    I drink a half gallon of the tea a day and smoke every day and I have been home testing myself every day and FINALLY I have found a perfect balance of weed vs palo tea to where I pass the tests each time. im 6ft 185 lbs .. The palo Azul tea website tells you how to make it but what they don’t tell you is that you can re-use the tea! I mean its only 6 dollars a bag but still..