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 November 13, 2015

marijuana cash industry bankingI fight for marijuana reform because it’s the right thing to do. I have several members of my family that have been arrested, locked up, and fined because of marijuana prohibition. I myself have been fined for marijuana possession before, but fortunately because I live in Oregon, it was just a fine and not an arrest. This was before Measure 91 took effect, back when marijuana was just decriminalized in Oregon. Had I been caught just one state over, in Idaho, I would have been punished much harsher.

I fight for marijuana reform because I believe that no one should be fined, or arrested, and certainly not jailed because they like to consume a plant that has been found to be 114 times safer than alcohol. I also fight against marijuana prohibition because it’s a racist public policy, proven by math alone. Marijuana prohibition is an enforcement tool that many members of law enforcement use to racially profile people, and that is extremely wrong.

There are many, many others out there that fight for marijuana reform for the same reasons. They do not do it because it’s profitable, and in fact, most of them have sacrificed a great deal of their hard earned dollars in the name of reform. Unfortunately, and I say this as one of those people, that is not enough to ensure that marijuana reform occurs across this country. I wish it was, but it’s not. We have been doing the ‘reform marijuana laws because it’s the right thing to do’ strategy for many decades with mixed results.

It wasn’t until enormous dollar figures started to get thrown around that the momentum for marijuana reform grew rapidly to its current level. One of the biggest contributing factors to changing people’s minds about marijuana reform is the growth of the marijuana industry. In a perfect world, people would indeed support marijuana reform because it’s the right thing to do. But there are a lot of people out there that were against marijuana reform anyways. However, because the marijuana industry creates jobs, boosts local real estate value, generates tax revenue, and a bunch of other things, a lot of those people are now seeing the light. It’s not the way that I would prefer that people arrive at that conclusion, but the end result is the same, and I’ll take that all day.

The marijuana industry has the ability to change minds that wouldn’t otherwise be swayed. But the marijuana industry also has the ability to stop marijuana reform dead in its tracks if businesses aren’t responsible. The entire industry is under a microscope right now, with opponents like Kevin Sabet and members of the mainstream media just waiting to pounce at the first sign of someone being irresponsible. That gives me anxiety to think about, because there are so many bad apples in this industry right now.

They are far from the majority, and actually only make up a small percentage of the industry, but if they mess up, their actions will reflect on the entire industry and movement. It doesn’t take too many industry black eyes to turn off voters and elected officials, who will vote to roll back marijuana reform. As an industry, we need to make sure that doesn’t happen. If you are in the industry, be a good steward of the industry. Volunteer in your communities. Make the areas that you operate in a better place to show non-marijuana consumers that we are here to make communities better, and not to make them worse.

If you own a store or dispensary, check everyone’s ID, and under no circumstances should you ever take the chance of selling to someone underage. If you are a grower, make sure to not use harmful substances during the cultivation process. Every recall that has to go out makes the industry look really, really bad. And let’s be real, you know what you are using on your plants, so it’s not like you can just play dumb and it will all just go away. Your marijuana company’s actions are seen by many as the industry’s actions as a whole, and with that the actions of the marijuana movement as a whole. Write it down. Remember it. Know it and live it. The future of marijuana reform depends on it.

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  66 Responses to “The Future Of Marijuana Reform Depends On The Success Of The Marijuana Industry”

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    Raising medicinal grade cannabis is basic farming that requires 24/7 observation and follow through.
    No room for lazies. Consumers expect medicine that is free of treatments including node hardeners (Gravity), pesticides, and frankenweed splicing by Monsanto. Keep the consumer/legislator informed and the rest will fall into place. The wild card is the four plants for recreational use…

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      We need private companies to regulate the industry like UL and CSA in the electrical industry. Once government gets in you get crony socialism. UL and CSA compete to regulate electrical products. They set standards. All without government. (well mostly without government).

      Government regulators get bought off. The private regulators have much less of that because part of what they sell is their reputation for integrity. What does government sell? Guns ans jails. I’ve had enough of unaccountable government guns and jails bursting at the seams.

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      Wow!!! Pot smoking, lazy people seem to get shit done!! Seems like alot of work and dude, it’s so much easier to just noooot…. get it together…and why are you on the weed blog anyway? Hhmm….

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        It is a lot of work to grow it properly. I’m on my 18th year of OMMP production and I don’t take the easy route with chemical use and deception. Why am I here? Because I want to be. Anymore silly questions you can’t answer?

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    Words of wisdom.

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      Regulatory capture.

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      Speaking of ignorance : Marijuana smokers have long been characterized as dimwitted and slow. They tend to shrug off these stereotypes as artifacts of how they are when they’re on the drug. If you’ve ever had the misfortune of enduring a pot smoker who takes you through the “beneficial” effects of marijuana on the brain, then you’ve likely wondered if the stereotype is true. As it turns out, it is.

      A study more than thirty years in the making found that smoking marijuana permanently lowers intelligence, or IQ. Frequent pot smokers (even those who had given up marijuana) tended to have deficits in memory, concentration, and overall IQ. The reduction in IQ for those who smoked pot heavily prior to age 18 was most pronounced: an average of eight points. An eight point reduction in IQ is enough to have a significant, negative impact upon your life. To put it into context, consider that individuals with an IQ of 110 have an average net worth of $71,000 and individuals with an IQ of 120 have an average net worth of $128,000. It looks like smoking pot can lower your tax bracket. Original enough for you !

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        So what’s your excuse on income? Bill Gates used marijuana, he seems to be pulling more than enough money. 4 of our presidents since the controlled substance act went into effect have admitted to using marijuana, well actually 3, because 1 didn’t inhale. Your iq theory is bs, just like the study your pulling the data from that, you know, didn’t account for heavy alcohol use and other illicit drug use.

        Truth is, personal risks are not your concern. Leave those concerns up to the legal adult who decides to use. In other words, respect thy neighbor and mind your own business.

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        The IQ study you refer to did not factor in alcohol use. A much larger study attempting to replicate the results found no IQ decline once alcohol use was factored in.

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        you are a danger to the human race. please do the world a favor and commit suicide.

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    No more taxed or regulated than tomatoes. Don’t we already have too much government?

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    The EU has declared glyphosate to be non cancer causing.

    Suppose one of the minor cannabinoids is suddenly found to be very important. We will get plants that produce them a lot faster with direct DNA modification than the haphazard methods currently in use.

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    Yea we won in OHIO , SORRY POT HEADS !

    It is always funny to me when an article that posts something negative about Marijuana–even ones from research from top Universities–that you STILL will have people dismiss it.

    They will think of EVERYTHING—and make up something that they think in their mind dismisses facts. It is truly unbelievable.

    I have always been someone who respects science, I can identify solid, accurate studies and research. A study is solid through and through and has been backed by multiple centers with a large number of patients and reviewed by peers before publication. You cannot dismiss that as bogus.

    The Internet’s being manipulated by ones who are going to profit Billions of dollars from legalization marijuana !

    If it has medical properties like everybody says , why do we have marijuana dispensaries it needs to in the hands of doctors , pharmacies , hospitals only , because I do believe it does help some small children about 20-30% with seizures from the videos and from what I read from parents with children that are having seizures . And let’s all remember Columbia’s first police officer were I live was killed by a man high on marijuana, so was American sniper he was also killed by a man high on marijuana! “.

    Marijuana and Mental Health: A number of studies have shown an association between chronic marijuana use and increased rates of anxiety, depression, and schizophrenia with age at first use to be an important risk factor. High doses of marijuana can produce an acute psychotic reaction. And when your experiment with marijuana doesn’t work out why should taxpayers have pay for your medical expenses the rest of your life !

    MYTH: Marijuana is harmless.
    FACT: According to the Drug Abuse Warning Network (DAWN), in 2010 there were over 572,000 marijuana-involved admissions to hospital emergency rooms. The same report inddicated that during the same timeframe, an estimated 11,406 emergency department visits involved a synthetic cannabinoid product, sometimes referred to as “synthetic marijuana” and commonly known by street names such as “Spice” or “K2”.

    MYTH: Marijuana is harmless , he said years ago that he smoked pot daily !
    As for the big lie about MARIJUANA : Medical experts blame the Home Secretary for creating confusion about the risks posed by the drug – leading young people wrongly to believe it is harmless.
    They claim David Blunkett’s decision to reclassify cannabis as a class C drug – putting it on a level with anabolic steroids and prescription painkillers – sent out the wrong message and played down the devastating
    A study more than thirty years in the making found that smoking marijuana permanently lowers intelligence, or IQ. Frequent pot smokers (even those who had given up marijuana) tended to have deficits in memory, concentration, and overall IQ. The reduction in IQ for those who smoked pot heavily prior to age 18 was most pronounced: an average of eight points. An eight point reduction in IQ is enough to have a significant, negative impact upon your life

    As for the big lie about MARIJUANA : Medical experts blame the Home Secretary for creating confusion about the risks posed by the drug – leading young people wrongly to believe it is harmless.
    They claim David Blunkett’s decision to reclassify cannabis as a class C drug – putting it on a level with anabolic steroids and prescription painkillers – sent out the wrong message and played down the devastating health effects of its regular use.
    Professor John Henry, a leading authority on the drug, said the change – due to take place this summer – had undermined doctors’ efforts to highlight the risks.
    He said: “Cannabis is as dangerous as cigarette smoking – in fact, it may be even worse – and downgrading its legal status has simply confused people.
    The Internet’s and news is being manipulated by ones who are going to profit Billions of dollars from legalization marijuana !

    Pot Smokers are really no different that alcoholics , and do we really need another vice people can’t handle the ones we have !
    I have watched two close friends that went to collage and one even got a PHD . In agriculture the other in arts long story short started smoking pot and went nowhere , one still lives in his mothers home she moved out . The other smoked every single day until he got pneumonia and kept smoking pot until he started coughing so severely that his heart stopped yes this story is true but they don’t put it down as a death due to marijuana they called cardiac failure! There families would disagree with you !
    The Internet’s being manipulated by ones who are going to profit Billions of dollars from legalization marijuana !

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      There is so much wrong information in this rant it’s hard to know where to start, so I won’t. Sorry Mac, your wrong on almost everything. But you have the #1 right to say it. Thank you for your minority opinion.

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      Congrats CJ! How does it feel to be the biggest and most ignorant idiot ever?

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      Dammit Kevin Sabet…that has to be you…quit it right now! Find another venue…question…did I hear a billionaire conspiracy theory thrown in? Take your meds, take off the tin foil hat, and yes I’m an alien who would probe you…you just have to get your head out first…:)…FEEL THE BERN!!!

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        The indoctrination process will be pushed on younger and younger school kids that getting stoned is less harmful than chewing gum — they’ll keep planting that seed in gullible young minds, keep repeating that lie over and over until it becomes “fact.” It’s a technique that’s been quite effective for Obama — you know the “you can keep your doctor” lie.
        The stoners efforts at indoctrinating easily deceived young minds will be rewarded when those youngsters reach voting age. The stoners “Issue 3” will then be re-written and presented again. It will probably pass.
        The stoners will wait it out.

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          And when legalization passed in Colorado the results were? Booming economy, reduction in violent crime, soaring property values, and an entire subsection of humanity became employable…How dare they use that devil weed and make it work…they should be ashamed…not to mention murdering all those poor bags of Cheeto’s.

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            So I google about crime in Colorado like you said here what pop up now you were saying !

            1)DENVER — Four people are being sough after an armed robbery at a marijuana dispensary in the RiNo neighborhood Sunday afternoon, the Denver Police Department said.

            2) High Crimes: Robber Gangs Terrorize Colorado Pot Shops
            For weeks now, the Mile High state has allowed the sale of recreational pot to adults, and so far the Rockies still stand. But crimes like the ones above, all of which occurred in Colorado in the last six months, have produced an acid-drip of anxiety in the industry, highlighting the dangers faced by those hoping to drag America’s most popular illegal drug into the light.

            3)Colorado Marijuana Industry Experiencing Summer Crime Wave

            4)Gun-Wielding Robbers Hit High Street medical marijuana dispensary

            5)Top Security Firm Experiences Rash of Robberies Highlighted in Local News
            In June, one of MPS Security’s chief competitors experienced a rash of six robberies in less than two months. Most of the break-ins, according to a company spokesperson, happened after hours when staff and security personal were not on watch.
            One such robbery involved a break in, while a grower was still in the facility early in the morning. The grower apparently startled the robbers and chased them off, but not before one of the intruders turned and fired a couple of shots at the grower. Luckily, the shooter missed.

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          You act as if your prohibition some how magically keeps kids from getting their hands on drugs. For fucks sake, one of the states with the more harsher penalties can’t keep an 8 year old from getting their hands on drugs. Your laws don’t work. It’s not worth the cost to legislate how people live. Regulate in a tightly controlled legal market makes far more sense then the status quo. In fact, other countries that have chosen a decriminalization with regulation works not only keep drugs out of minors hands, but also reduce the number of over all users. Prohibition of marijuana and the number of users in the last 46 years has increased 1250%. Your bs does not work!

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          What a crock. Go back to FOCKS SNOOZE and your boozy life.

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            Sorry no vices here ! Only clean living !

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            Ordering other people around, in flagrantly discriminatory fashion, is a lot worse than a vice, it’s a pig circus.

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            What ? Speaking of ignorance : Marijuana smokers have long been characterized as dimwitted and slow. They tend to shrug off these stereotypes as artifacts of how they are when they’re on the drug. If you’ve ever had the misfortune of enduring a pot smoker who takes you through the “beneficial” effects of marijuana on the brain, then you’ve likely wondered if the stereotype is true. As it turns out, it is.

            A study more than thirty years in the making found that smoking marijuana permanently lowers intelligence, or IQ. Frequent pot smokers (even those who had given up marijuana) tended to have deficits in memory, concentration, and overall IQ. The reduction in IQ for those who smoked pot heavily prior to age 18 was most pronounced: an average of eight points. An eight point reduction in IQ is enough to have a significant, negative impact upon your life. To put it into context, consider that individuals with an IQ of 110 have an average net worth of $71,000 and individuals with an IQ of 120 have an average net worth of $128,000. It looks like smoking pot can lower your tax bracket. Original enough for you !

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      You are wrong on so many levels!! You have your opinions and view points (despite how outdated or flat out wrong your “facts” may be) and I have mine. If it gives someone comfort who are you to say otherwise? Better yet, who the hell are you to feel that because you don’t agree with it that anyone who does do it should be jailed and fined and marked as a less intelligent person?? What in the actual fuck gives you that right?? Go ahead il wait…. You think it’s okay for a person to be verbally abused, turned down for employment, ridiculed, fined, and imprisoned because they are doing something that has literally NO FUCKING BEARING on your self righteous life. It is simple. You need a fact check like old yeller needed a new owner. Why in the world when talking about marijuana would you bring up spice or k2??? That is synthetic to the core and the high is the furthest thing from marijuana that you could imagine. Take all your pathetic (big pharma) facts and spread them everywhere spamming the shit out of everything but in the end the people such as myself you are speaking too and arguing against have no shit real experience smoking it and are obviously better to describe in greater detail what actually is. Another sad part for you is we also have science on our side. Either way, you think one way and for some reason feel everyone must think the same or be punished. We think we should be able to smoke but we do not give a shit if you do….because your life is none of our business just as our lives are none of your business or the governments for that matter. Mind your business and if someone finds something that makes them happy easing their suffering while not affecting anyone else then get off their nuts and worry about yourself.

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        Woot Woot…get em’ Ryan….

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        With as much anger thats showing here it maybe a Drug-induced psychosis: The use of drugs such as marijuana, cocaine, LSD amphetamines and alcohol can sometimes cause psychotic symptoms to appear.A person will have symptoms of schizophrenia and symptoms of a mood disturbance, either at the same time or alternating over time.
        Depression with psychotic features: A person has severe depression and symptoms of psychosis without the mania associated with bipolar disorder.

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          Anger?? More like passionate about the god given rights all human beings should be
          entitled to. And very passionate about people who have tunnel vision and the inability to show empathy while forcing others to do and believe as they do against their will as well as their health sometimes. Doctors will even tell you a positive mindset can potentially do wonders for patients. If smoking weed makes them feel better physically and mentally while giving them hope and that positive mindset to continue to fight on then who are you to say otherwise? Your obviously a control freaK that bitches and complains about every little thing that makes you the least bit disgruntled. You wanna control every single persons life down to a micro-managing level, which honestly makes me feel sympathy towards how sad and uneventful your life must be for you to involve yourself so much in a matter that you aren’t being FORCED into. Your argument as well as your “facts” are invalid. Consider this, you are writing a report on the feeling and effects on the body of going out of orbit. Only able to use one person as a source of information, you have to choose between A.) An astronaut who has countless flight missions under his belt with real life experience and know how. B.) Someone who says they have researched the topic and claims they know what they are talking about (no doubt with facts already proven to be nothing more than slander and/or false). Don’t worry about telling me who you would choose, as the question was retorickle given the obvious. It sounds as if you may need basic human rights broken down barney style and repeated a couple dozen times. No one cares about what you think or believe because this issue would only concern you if we wanted laws passed to not only legalize, but to also force you to consume something you do not believe in. Lucky for you, we only want it legalized for the use by those that would like to use it in the privacy of their own homes for whatever reasons they may have. NOT requesting to drive while hi, smoke in public places, or FORCE the majority of Americans to partake with the threats of outrageous fines, imprisonment, and employment discrimination. As far as your “facts” regarding negative effects on the human body, not only should you learn to site your sources but nothing has been proven by any credible sources stating negative/permanent effects actually exist as a result from the use of Marijuana. Obviously everyone knows that smoking any substance using old school flame to burn it is going to have some kind of a negative side effect due to tar build up of some sort…. that’s about it though… so you don’t use it for that reason that’s great I respect your decision as a man and an American. However, I do employ you to please tell me any reasons you have for not wanting OTHERS to use it medically or recreationaly in their own homes… go ahead, we’ll wait.
          Regardless of the black and white movie I’m assuming you got your facts from, if I tell you aspirin made my headache go away will you believe me? If an alcoholic tells you the effects of withdrawl would you take their word over someone who hasn’t drink so much as a beer? What about opioids, if I tell you the withdrawl effects or the possible side effects (listed by manufacturers themselves) of an oxy or side effects would you believe me? The obvious answer here is yes. Yes of course you would believe what’s being told. People sometimes recover from these kinds of addictions and find employment teaching their first hand experience and usually speaking they get kudos for kicking it as well as teaching others how to do the same. Because first hand experience can/will NEVER be something you can gain through Internet reading nor dismissed as less than factual. Please grasp the concept that we are, in fact, speaking of substances that are 100% legal so long as you have money. We are also speaking of things that have a long long list of nasty side effects with almost certain addiction. Even as much as no shit physical symptoms of withdrawal eerily similar to that of heroin… lines starting to blurr a bit huh? Not one death has even been proven to be a direct result of marijuana. Or indirect for matter. Why? Because people just don’t act that way due to useage of marijuana. Committing a crime with it in your system also does not prove really anything other than how desperate the opposition is that it’s resorted to grasping at straws. Which honestly, it’s just as much if not MORE idiotic to say that Marijuana being in a idividuals system that commited a crime means it was a direct result than it would be to say chocolate (factually known to be an afrodesiac) being in the system of someone who raped another must mean that it was a direct result of chocolate. You see where I’m going with this? A little idiotic and over the top to say the least. As far as this comment in particular regarding the mental illness issue, well I do have some issues as does every person living a life on this planet. The term “I’m only human” exists for a reason, that reason being no one is perfect. However, my mental issues as you so delicately put it are most likely do to my childhood growing up in more foster homes than you have fingers and toes. Another big impacting factor would be due to my time in the marine corps with addition to divorce and other such things… you know what most people just sum it up as life. You seem to think that it was marijuana use that sparked my original comment and took it as a bi-polar and anger fueled reply to your original comment (of course caused my marijuana use)!? That about sum it up? Well, that would be a negative.it would be more appropriate however, if you would assume that it came from a deep passion as an American patriot and veteran whilst seeing what appears to be comments from an idividual ridiculing and pushing for laws that not only hinder my fellow Americans I took an oath to stand up for as well as fucking with their constitutional rights to live their lives how they see fit providing they not hurt people or conspire against the flag… you sir, are that domestic enemy in the oath I took… oddly enough, I responded to your original post wondering how and why you sounded so angry and upset about the whole issue, lol your response being about anger and mental illness caused by weed. Even if that where the actual case, what exactly is your excuse? Again I would love if you could please let us all know why exactly you feel that because you have no use for it, it should be illegal with massive consequences for those that do. Who are you to ever bully and ridicule a person for their beliefs, preferances, or how they choose to live life? I would humble yourself very quickly before your karma catches up to you. You are not better than anyone so why do you feel your entitled to act as such? Your nobody, and your expressed opinions mean absolutely nothing. I truly hope you eventually learn to empathize with the suffering of your nation as a whole. It’s not hard to see how the good far outweighs the (questionable) bad. In everything from tax revenue, treatments for illness, and everything in between. The idiotic and backwards beliefs that you have are causing your inability to differentiate between truths and propaganda. What exactly is it that made you such a bitter person? Doesn’t really matter, I’m more than happy to call you out on your bullshit and desire to control how others live and breath. As a belligerent dysfunctional marine corps veteran I’m more than happy to spread some hate and discontent. Get yourself some cream as I’m sure the butt hurt by this point is just unbelievable…..Shots fired.

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      You cj have spewed a bunch of myth and misinformation. For starters, since your so big on studies, science and the pure math of this subject… if marijuana was associated with causing mental disorders… How come the percentage of public with mental disorders has remained steady at approx 25%, when use since 1969 has gone from 4% that had ever used to 49% that had ever used? You really sure about your assumption on mental health? Even if 10% of the people who use marijuana caused mental illness, the math would suggest that our mental health rate would have increased to above 30% and not remained stable at 25%.

      Additionally your reference to synthetic drugs “spice” ect. Those are being abused because of one reason… They are not detectable by standard drug test. Only about 5% of the chemicals in the over 360 identified synthetic chemicals have any resemblance to cannabis. Most are not only created the same way but also chemically structured like pcp. It’s a chemical, it’s dangerous, and it’s nothing like marijuana. The synthetics actually have a death rate, several thousands have died from using them. Zero have died from a marijuana overdose… Your connection is retarded.

      An average of 500 innocent people die a year from police drug raids. Innocent. No connection to the drug. Those deaths, are at the hands of the prohibition you support. The deaths from the synthetic drugs, those deaths are the fault of people like you, that can’t mind their own business. Get your nose out of other people’s lives.

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        I have a really simple test for whether or not a drug is dangerous.like there trying to do with MARIJUANA !

        How hard will users work to get it legalized?

        How much money will they spend.

        How many lies and exaggerations will they tell.

        How much rhetoric will they use, how hard will they work to indoctrinate other users.

        How willing are they to be dishonest with THEMSELVES.

        If a drug drives millions of people to lie, exaggerate, con, beg, and addict their friends….Every day on Facebook I see people willing to share absolutely absurd “facts” about marijuana. Anyone with half a brain can figure out that at the very least it’s an exaggeration, and more likely a flat out lie.

        And no one, to my knowledge has ever lied, exaggerated, mislead people to get Broccoli !

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          I don’t even use marijuana, never have, likely never will. I see first hand from my job that marijuana is no where near as dangerous as most legal substances. Even water is more dangerous. Do you drink alcohol? Because I see it causing far more damage then all illegal drugs combined, it has one of the highest addiction rates, with well over 30% addiction rate, is linked to iq drop, is linked to brain, liver, kidney, heart damage. 6
          People overdose and die on it every day. It’s linked to mental disorders, and linked to violent behavior. Linked to much more negative behavior then other substances. You willing to give up your alcohol too? Willing to send people to jail for using it. Willing to hand out life sentences for trafficking it? We wouldn’t want you to be a hypocrite, so let’s repeat the obvious mistake our society made in the 20’s with Alcohol. What do you say CJ? Let’s repeat our mistakes and somehow not relate your ideology to insanity….

          You Prohibitionist have a mental disorder! It’s called can’t mind your own business. It’s called have to control others lives. What’s very ironic about it, I could probably pick out 10 things you do in your life that are far more dangerous and far more unhealthy then the f’ing plant you seek to oppress. I can also point out, that your drug war was nothing more then racism disguised as for the good of society effort. You temperance pricks need to get a life of your own, that doesn’t control other people’s choices! But go ahead, spout your reefer madness communistic ideology lies. Us free Americans are learning the truth about your culture war!

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          More than likely a flat out lie…so you don’t like MJ? Don’t use it but cut the BS. You’re about as believable DICK Nixon.

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          Lol @ Kevin Sabet (CJ MACINTOSH)

          You don’t even know the difference between correlation and causation.

          “increased rates of anxiety, depression, and schizophrenia”
          Marijuana treats all of the above. There is also a “correlation” between panadol users and headaches.

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            Are you certain that that comment was posted by “Kevin Sabet”? I have seen that prohib “debating” on a screen before and could not help but notice a resemblance he bears to the same pack of inbred gangsters who have been guilty of running the prohibition scheme for years now. I suggest they start encouraging large scale home grows for self provision and giving to eachother.

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            Who else purports “Big Marijuana” is going to cause the sky to fall? And I’ve been keeping a close eye on Mr. Sabet ever since he lost against Russ Belville in a head-to-head debate year ago – the language and tactics of obfuscating correlation and causation are a common theme (I call schizophrenia, look up the symptoms in the DSM). Oh and the “WE WON IN OHIO” quip – another sign reality is slipping away from Mr. Sabet – proponents of marijuana reform did not like this measure.

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          Go have another drink of America’s drug, you fascist hypocrite. Anyone with even half a brain knows alcohol is a megakiller and cannabis isn’t. Your thug bigot views are headed for the trash bin of history

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            The Internet’s and news is being manipulated by ones who are going to profit Billions of dollars from legalization marijuana !

            Pot Smokers are really no different that alcoholics , and do we really need another vice people can’t handle the ones we have !
            I have watched two close friends that went to collage and one even got a PHD . In agriculture the other in arts long story short started smoking pot and went nowhere , one still lives in his mothers home she moved out . The other smoked every single day until he got pneumonia and kept smoking pot until he started coughing so severely that his heart stopped yes this story is true but they don’t put it down as a death due to marijuana they called cardiac failure! There families would disagree with you !
            The Internet’s being manipulated by ones who are going to profit Billions of dollars from legalization marijuana !
            Here is the Truth about Marijuana !

            http://www.cleveland19.com/story/30398168/drugged-driving-how-marijuana-impacts-drivers

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            No, here’s the truth about cannabis: How many people does alcohol kill and maim? How many people does cannabis kill and maim?
            What more do you need to know, to know that cannabis should be legal, for reasons of basic justice and basic public health and safety?

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            No vices here ! Next!

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        Marijuana and Mental Health: A number of studies have shown an association between chronic marijuana use and increased rates of anxiety, depression, and schizophrenia with age at first use to be an important risk factor. High doses of marijuana can produce an acute psychotic reaction. And when your experiment with marijuana doesn’t work out why should taxpayers have pay for your medical expenses the rest of your life !
        Alcohol and pot who says that people has no problem with alcohol and tobacco? I know perfectly that they are drugs that kill a lot of people. More people die of drug related incidents (including prescription drugs) that from any other death cause in this country. Adding another one is not going to help at all. So, it is not a matter of hypocrisy, it is a matter of not adding more stupidity into our society and not helping to make more future vice slaves!

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          Perhaps you’ll take up the challenge of boycotting products marijuana consumers have produced?

          If you’re not a hypocrite and up for the challenge, you’ll need to boycott Macs and PCs as both Bill Gates and Steve Jobs enjoyed their weed. Good luck with that lol

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          It’s a matter of extreme hypocrisy, alcohol, tobacco and prescription opiates are so much more dangerous than cannabis that there is utterly no comparison. When American is willing to give up using the drug alcohol, get back to me. Until then, as long as alcohol supremacist bigotry is the law of the land, the law can go to hell.

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      So when you say “we won”, part of that “we” are the drug cartels. Your support for prohibition is support for organized crime. Your support for prohibition is support for bigger government. Your support for prohibition is support for people, who don’t even use cannabis, getting killed in police raids because of bad info & wrong addresses. You talk about studies about the relatively very mild side effects of the plant, but how about looking into the studies about the harm of prohibition? Oh & why do people like you just pretend to love freedom?

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        you act like it’s a conspiracy foil the plan don’t use it

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          Were you inebriated when you typed this?

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            It’s blatantly obvious Kevin Sabet’s strategy is to ignore fact and spew BS (or in this case, indecipherable dribble). Notice how it’s impossible for him to face up to the reality that prohibition has caused more harm than marijuana ever will (cue another spew of mixing correlation and causation whilst ignoring the key facts as LuchadaveDeBarbarian pointed out). Nor could ID checks possibly work!! Oh yeah that’s right, all us successful pot smokers need drug rehab, right Kevin? And jail if we re-offend? Bet you would have loved to have sent Shakespeare into rehab – consuming was considered normal before prohibition! (Where it existed, of course…)

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      Kevin Sabet, you are delusional. As others have correctly pointed out – the IQ study was faulty and did NOT factor in alcohol

      usage. A follow-up study found no such drop in IQ when alcohol use was factored in.

      You’re bordering on schizophrenic (delusional, occupational dysfunction and disorganised behaviour) – we’ve been keeping an eye on the BS articles you’ve been putting out about Colorado . Here’s an article to help you: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/international-centre-for-science-in-drug-policy/cannabis-myths_b_8110644.html

      “A recent example, often-repeated, is that cannabis causes drops in IQ,
      of up to eight points — which was the major finding of a 2012 report
      from Duke University. But, these results were based only on one study
      and the 8-point drop in IQ was observed in only 38 individuals (3.7 per
      cent of the total sample). Just last year, a University College London report
      was published that re-examined this issue in another group of young
      people, with a sample size over twice as large as the Duke study, and
      taking into account alcohol use, cigarette use, maternal education, and
      other potential confounders. The result? The authors found no
      association between cannabis and IQ at all, not even among heavy
      cannabis users. It is clear that we are some way off from a final answer
      to the question of whether cannabis is ever harmful to intelligence.”

      Have fun in your fantasy land :)

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        Speaking of fantasy land you may not be able to realize commen sense :

        Smoking marijuana can lead to more than a euphoric high, and has been linked to long-lasting delusions, mouth swelling and several other surprising effects, according to a new review of research on the recreational use of the drug.

        “All recreational users should be aware of potential undesired acute cannabinoid effects,” or the effects of being high on pot, study author Dr. Eva Hoch, of the department of addictive behavior and addiction medicine at the University of Heidelberg in Germany, told Live Science. The type and severity of these effects depend on many factors, such as the composition of the cannabis, how often someone uses marijuana, the user’s disposition and how much they smoke, Hoch said.

        Recreational marijuana use has been legalized in several U.S. states, but researchers are still learning about the effects the drug has on a person’s mind and body.

        To find out, Hoch and colleagues reviewed 116 previous studies that had focused on recreational use of marijuana, not medical marijuana use. The researchers “were surprised by the variety of potential mental and physical health effects reported in the literature,” Hoch said.

        For instance, from the review, they identified 12 signs of “acute intoxication” or being high on marijuana, which doctors could use to identify when someone is high. These included feeling anxious or agitated, having a slow reaction time or trouble paying attention, feeling euphoric and disinhibited, having an altered sense of time, having limited judgment abilities, experiencing acoustic, optic or tactile illusions, experiencing feelings of being separate from your body or from reality, exhibiting impaired overall physical and mental performance, experiencing hallucinations or paranoid delusions. [11 Odd Facts About Marijuana]

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          Your strategy of ignoring reality (e.g., ignoring the debunked IQ study, confusing correlation with causation in pretty much all of your points) and instead focusing on “potential harms” (very different from real harms) is only digging you into a deeper hole.

          Let’s see if you can revisit your cherished IQ study. Not even considering the poor controls, if you think an IQ drop in 3.7% of users is causation then once again you’re wrong. Marijuana contains an anti-psychotic – if you were to study those that benefited from prescription anti-psychotics, you’d also expect to see a slight drop in IQ.

          But again, you’re only revealing your lack of ability to distinguish correlation from causation. In your little world, marijuana has no benefits so you wouldn’t be able to comprehend this. Let’s see what else you can get wrong, looking forward to more of your “correlations”!

          Perhaps Russ Belville is wrong about you – perhaps you’re not intentionally trying to mislead – from what I gather you actually believe your own BS: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/russ-belville/kevin-sabet-is-misleading_b_8192098.html

          Let’s see if you can admit you’re wrong on the IQ study (I know you can’t, I fully expect you to ignore it).

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      I guess this means they are not going to bring Hee Haw back.

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        It’s on Chanel 240 every Saturday ! RFD Tv ! 8:00pm central

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          4/.20 is a lot better…and you really need to be at one..open your mind 100% (Dr’s Lester Grinspoon, David Allen, Sanjay Gupta, and more), and breathing 30%.. (Don Tashkin UCLA Prof, long term cannabis & tobacco studies)…you are ignorant or bought off, or both. Go to a 4/.20 and save yourself!

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          CJ you don’t believe that horse manure. No self respecting Hee Haw fan believes in big government. You’re just picking and grinning. Some people think that Hee Haw is all about the girls in the their little shorts. And they aren’t all wrong, but there is more to it than that. Marijuana is as American as apple pie and you know that. Happy Trails. Now who sang that one? It wasn’t on Hee Haw.

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            That be old Roy Rogers and sorry allergic to apples so no pie for me please ! Just cherry pie like the girls on Hee Haw !

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            That’s right. Roy Rogers and Dale Evans. He usually sang from his horse, and you know the horse’s name. We didn’t have any big marijuana prohibition in those days. The generation that won WW2 didn’t think it was an issue. Those who survived the Great Depression managed to do it without a DEA. Many people believe that America was a stronger country before big government started sticking their noses into what a man does on his own property that he worked and paid for. Even if we have no personal interest in the plant, it’s a liberty vs. big government issue. Adults don’t need a nanny state telling them how to live their lives. If someone commits a crime then they need to take responsibility and not blame it on drink or drugs. They are still responsible for their actions. Prohibition is socialism. and that is not American. The police state just wants into your homes so the next step is they go after your guns. We don’t plant to let it get to that point. That is what this is all about for many people.

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      pure ignorant nonsense.

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      Hmm, I wonder if “C. J. Macintosh” is this prohibitionist’s real name… I also question the sincerity of the comment as a whole, though I spared myself reading much of it…. I do often wonder how those sincere advocates of prohibition suggest the unimaginably high costs of prohibition be paid for… A good guess is that they want to heist the rest of us through overtaxation while evading taxes themselves like the parasites they are. So are we to assume that prohibitionists enjoy the feeling of driving on bumpy roads and experiencing rolling blackouts because of the vast misallocation of resources they have set up? Advocating for breaches of the constitution is an anti – American act in and of itself – perhaps “C. J. Macintosh”, or whoever denigrated the concept of modern human communication with such deceitful filth, is begging to be buggered…

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    HEY I BEEN SEEING WERE I LIVE AT THEY SAID THE MEDICAL WEED IT BEEN ON THE NEWS BUT WHEN U TRYING TO GET IT I CANT WHY.

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    I’m 45 and I have had seizures for going on 12 years now and for the last 2 years I have went back and forth on whether or not I should try cannabis, mostly because I was concerned about what others would think of me and the fact that marijuana had always been portrayed to me as a drug just to get high. Three months ago I made the decision to try the oil because it was try it or end my life! I have what is called partial complex seizures and to anyone who would see me would just think I dozed off but in actuality it is a seizure and although it doesn’t look like it to others I feel like I have a constant earthquake going on in my body. I have 100-150 of these seizures a day! I went from having that many to less than 30 a day!! I would have never have believed that it would work except I felt I had no choice as none of the prescriptions I was given worked and not only did they not work but If I wasn’t knocked out from the seizure I was knocked out from the meds! I keep hearing about all the bad side effects well what about the bad side effects of the meds the FDA did approve? I know just in the 3 months I have used the oil that I have no side effects and I’ve been able to eat again because it helps me with my nausea! People that have died or have done nothing with their life supposedly from marijuana no one knows what else was going on and may not know all the facts involved and it was a choice they made to misuse it and the individuals that need it for healing should not suffer because of their individual choice and foolishness. One can die these days just crossing the street! I wish I could say to this day I’m improving more and more but unfortunately because of the cost I’m back to having 100-150 seizures a day but if I can help Change the mind of someone who thought the same way I did or someone who just isn’t sure I can tell those individuals it does work!! I feel bad for the young children who were born having seizures and some that can’t even talk or play because of seizures. I was in my 30’s before I had my first seizure and I just woke up one day and I have had them since so I can’t even imagine what it is like for a parent to have to watch their child go through this when they haven’t even began to live life yet! I know there are a lot of non-believers and I know that because I was one of them but it’s not fair that anyone should have to ask permission to do Whatever it takes to be able to watch their child walk, talk, or play for the first time or someone be able to get rid of such chronic pain they can’t get out of bed! Even when I was against it for myself and didn’t believe it would work I never looked down upon anyone for using it themselves! To each it’s own and how is it hurting any of those that have issues with it? It’s Not!!!

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    The title of this article is deceitful. There is plenty of economic justification for repealing prohibition based on the savings in enforcement. There is justification which relates to the first amendment as well. There is no huge industry surrounding catnip, yet we do not ban it or regulate it in an attempt to make an industry surrounding catnip. As modern humans, we acknowledge that creating artificial scarcity holds us back as a species. In order to fully realize the innovations and modern technology which human ingenuity has yielded we must not misuse government by creating artificial scarcity. Those who attempt to create artificial scarcities will see the heavy hand of real justice.
    Whilst communist leaning inbred bigots who depend on the inefficient welfare program which is artificial scarcity may think they have beaten back any sincere modern human culture which thrives on freedom, we are likely moving into an era in this country at least where fiscal conservatism will be valued again. An industry which requires misuse of governmental authorities to create artificial scarcities in order to have great success is incompatable with the free market and not a real industry. Those of you with such communist leanings should ask yourself why you have never considered moving to China. Our culture is a desirable place to live because we have a history of allocating resources to necessary infrastructure. Those who are here to distract from the infrastructure in the United States and thus put us at an international disadvantage are a disgrace to humanity and an insult to those who are stuck in other countries. Mark my words – you have been lured out of your prohibitionist caves and if you fail in cooperating with a complete repeal of prohibition (unhindered self provision), you will feel the heavy hands of real justice. You mafia brats think you are quite clever, but there really is a lot more going on than you fools know about.
    Freeing the cannabis plant completely would amount to tremendous savings due to the elimination of the costs of enforcement/ regulation. “Marijuana Reform” which involves regulation is not really an end to prohibition.
    When the close cousin of a “cheney” who calls himself “kevin sabet” stigmatizes herbal cannabis, this is that inbred clan of ugly clones’ way of attempting to pass of the myth that their prohibition/ regulatory systems are backed by any logic whatsoever. Virtually everyone sees through such infantile lies, yet a lot of folks are intimidated from speaking up because they are afraid of you inbred tribalistic bigots who have some delusion about the whole world being your promised land at the expense of the rest of us… At this point you bumps in the road would be better off trying to over regulate or put an outright ban on alcoholic beverages. Of course this time you will not get away with banning ethanol transportation fuel again. Considering how much easier it is to self provide a years worth of herbal cannabis than it is to self provide a years worth of alcoholic beverages, the concept of propping up a rigged corrupt industry surrounding alcoholic beverage consumption is at least not nearly as much of a misallocation of resources as is doing so to cannabis and hemp. Otherwise your restrictions on cannabis amount to a bigoted attempt to increase alcoholism rates while perpetuating the belief that herbal cannabis use is some kind of sin. The real lack of morality lies in your misinformation and your corrupt artificial scarcity based economics which breed war and starvation and wanton environmental degradation. We live on a massive planet with plenty to go around, but you prohibitionists/ regulators are basically making the earth smaller functionally. We know who you are now, and believe me when I say that as much as you hate yourselves, the rest of us hate you even more. You have basically been putting people in concentration camps in order to prop up herbal cannabis prices while depleting aquifers by banning hemp. When you perpetuate a perverse system of musical chairs enslavement, you have basically booked rooms at a concentration camp for yourselves.

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      Many claim that marijuana is not addictive. This is simply not true. Long-term marijuana abusers trying to quit report irritability, sleeplessness, decreased appetite, anxiety, and drug craving, all of which make it difficult to quit. About 10% of those who use marijuana will become addicted. This is higher the percentage of the number of social drinkers which is 6 %who become addicted to alcohol.
      I know a Coroner in a community of approx. 33,000, mostly rural farm, but accessible to a major city within 25 minutes drive ……99% of the families that have lost loved ones to overdoses will state marijuana was the start, leading to addiction down the road…poly pharmacy and/or heroin.
      We are kidding ourselves as to the long term consequences of legalizing marijuana for medical/ recreational use. Marijuana is and has been in pill form to dispense for medical purposes…….. It’s ALL about the money folks and ones just wanting to be able to get high !

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    ——————————– FREEDOM, not just “reform”—————————–
    Enforcement costs per year – well over $10,000,000,000 for cannabis in the United States alone. The real results being suppression of herbal cannabis use and the bolstering of physical addiction to alcoholic beverages, nicotine, and pills as well as holding humanity back from real advancements. If those who claim to be for legalization advocates want to simply give all of that wasted money to different bodies of regulation and enforcement than they have been giving to, then they really do not understand the definition of the word legalization. Do you think that the jackbooted thugs who hide behind a box of doughnuts will ever respect and treat herbal cannabis users equally if there is in place a system of misinformation based over regulation?
    The future of real cannabis freedom relies on placing more value on the concept of eliminating wasteful government spending so that useful government spending can have enough and/ or so people are not overtaxed.
    Well over $10 billion dollars every year in the United States alone!!! Well over $10,000,000,000 dollars per year heisted from taxpayers just so that cowardly inbred mafia brats can corrupt the culture of herbal cannabis and attempt to make the culture of superstitious alcoholism seem anywhere near equal to that of herbal cannabis use. So is herbal cannabis only for the wealthy, and those who are struggling artificially pushed towards use of nicotine and alcoholic beverages?
    Those superstitious fearful folk who rely on self defeating cannabis stigmatization should try and answer the following questions:
    — Do you really think that your imaginary friend and “creator” would play favorites with tribes of humans and then chose a batch of inbred parasitic gangsters?
    — What value is your imaginary friend and “creator” if they see herbal cannabis use as a “sin’, while condoning alcohol addiction and drunk driving deaths?
    — If you think that some supernatural force put a plant on the earth so that you can personally price gouge misinformed people at the expense of the earth’s resources than you are a delusional, antisocial, hate worshipping, backward, bad example of humanity. Agreed? Ever consider the possibility that you prohibition/ regulation dependent folk are being used by the anti – human eco-terrorist types as an example of why humanity is a bad thing?
    Ecologists find solutions which benefit humanity and promote a lush planet, while religious extremist eco – terrorists simply try to hold back humanity even if it means that they themselves are hastening the degradation of the earth.
    There is no need to be cannibals in 2015 – it is time for freedom. Forget your stone age desert cultures of ignorance of an abundant earth.

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      Were not ready yet for the public to run there own study yet !

      Does cannabis have side effects?
      Marijuana or cannabis in general has a number of effects depending on how it is ingested. For example, if smoked, the risk factors associated with smoking apply to marijuana. Side effects of the preparations used to treat seizures have not been well documented in anecdotal reports as varying doses and strains have been used. Increased appetite and memory problems have been reported.
      Cannabidiol (CBD): The open-labeled study discussed above (presented at the Academy of Neurology, April 22, 2015, Washington DC) included safety data from 213 patients at 11 different sites. Epidiolex (99% CBD) was generally well tolerated. Side effects that occurred in 10% or more of people included: sleepiness (21%), diarrhea (17%), fatigue (17%), and decreased appetite (16%).
      10 people (5%) stopped treatment with Epidiolex due to side effects, though 3 of these people restarted it.
      Most side effects were described as mild or moderate and went away.
      Serious side effects happened in 52 people – 22 of these were possibly related to the drug. The most common serious possible side effect was status epilepticus, when a person has long or repeated seizures. While 2 people died while taking Epidiolex, the deaths were not thought to be related to the drug.
      Some children required a change in seizure medication to lessen sedation or sleepiness. Interactions between Epidiolex and certain seizure medications causing changes in blood levels of seizure medications were found in small numbers of people in an earlier report of this study.
      It is difficult to assess the side effects of Epidiolex (99% CBD) and other safety concerns until larger studies using a control group are done. Other side effects could occur that are simply not known yet to practicing physicians. This and confirming efficacy is why rigorous clinical trials are needed.

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