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Opinion: Just Say No To I-502, Or At Least I Will

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washington medical marijuanaWe may not agree on what bill to pass but we can all agree on what is good weed.

The problem with activism in today’s America is that it doesn’t pay shit. No matter how right or common sense your position is one still needs to eat. Even modern day hippies like nice things like furniture, food, and high speed internet. The marijuana movement has achieved leaps and bounds from when I was a young smoker hoping the next bag wasn’t half a bag of seeds and stems.

Before the military, I was one of the many stoners getting signatures for medical marijuana in California, part of it was for a paycheck (which I never received) and the rest was simply because it was something I believed in. Since then medical marijuana has exploded leaps and bounds; from the way business is done to how other states have received it adapting almost the same legal model.

We’re definitely not out of the proverbial woods yet but we’ve made huge strides. I always wondered why Prop. 19 didn’t pass in the land of sunshine but now I have a clearer picture after reading Johnny Green’s piece. I feel I-502 (which is supported by a group known as New Approach Washington)in the State of Washington will and should receive the same negative pressure from smokers. Not all consumers of cannabis would agree though.

Like Johnny and Radical Russ, I use to feel any form of legalization is a good form of legalization but after receiving my medical prescription I’ve changed my point of view. First off let me say that I did sign one of the petitions for I-502 but now feel it was an error. I was approached with the legalization pitch and was sold right away, now as parts of the bill come out I’m not so for it. My biggest problem isn’t the 5 n/g positive DUI stipulation but the commercialization of growing. Washington is one of the few places I’ve seen that has controlled liquor sells up until recently. If you wanted a bottle of rum you would have to go to a state run liquor store (that is until Costco won a bill that has changed that policy proving you can buy a law) but beer and wine sold everywhere anyways (never really understood the logic here but I digress). The State legalization of marijuana would turn into a new State business, all stipulations and controls would belong to the state. Now I’m all about giving tax revenue to the state but I would hate to see them control the business of cannabis, hell they can’t even balance a budget on time.

If the state controls the business they also control the source. Now State Troopers are obligated to enforce state laws and arrest unlicensed grows. You may say well we’re all technically illegal now anyways, what’s the difference? The difference is right now State Troopers aren’t knocking on my door and if the Fed shows up, well than I’ll have one hell of a story. Personally I don’t want the state turning on my growers. If I-502 passes non-approved growers will have local law enforcement against them and not obligated to protect them if they are a legal medical patient.

If the farming industry has taught us anything it’s that the consumer loses in the end (You should Google Monsanto). Quality dwindles as corporate farmers try to fill the needs of the masses.

Sensible Washington

Sensible Washington

Three groups have drawn my attention here in Washington against I-502, they are: Washington Safe Cannabis Act, Sensible Washington, and Patients Against I-502. All three are against I-502. One of the negatives is the commercialization of this industry to a state run corporation, something that will fill corporate coffers. Generally who invests in a campaign has an invested interested, so I wondered who the corporate coffer was, who has an invested interest? I contacted the grassroots folks at Sensible Washington to ask “Who are the corporate coffers?” and not just behind I-502 but also who’s behind Sensible Washington. I received three speedy replies all saying pretty much the same thing:

Thank you for your inquiry. The funding information you seek can be found on the Washington State Public Disclosure Commission website < http://www.pdc.wa.gov > All political campaign contributions are reported there.

Sensible Washington is largely funded by volunteers and supporters of our cause. We are a grass roots organization, and prefer to keep it that way. Large donors sometimes want to co-opt efforts to propel their own agendas, which can prove to have a negative impact on our all-volunteer base, and our mission.

 

New Approach Washington

New Approach Washington

New Approach Washington on the other hand, has many large donors, most notably the ACLU. Not only has the ACLU contributed donations for the campaign, but they also pay campaign staff on a monthly basis, so that they can focus solely on the I-502 effort.

Contrast that with SW’s volunteer staff. We are all volunteer, even at the highest levels, none of us are paid for what we do – we do it because we believe in the cause. We have day jobs, families, etc., because of our other commitments; we are limited in the time we can dedicate to focusing on our campaign efforts, which unfortunately limits our effectiveness to answer to the needs of our supporters.

NAW has a distinct advantage in funding and allocation of committed people that are paid for what they do. In fact, after having totaling the numbers from NAW’s expenditure reports, they paid $757,854.60 to PCI Consultants, the firm responsible for signature gathering. In any given month, they paid nearly as much, or more, than our campaign has spent in an entire year. The moral to this story is that elections can only be bought, unless enough people are willing to participate and contribute to a grass roots effort to impact change.

The link to NAW’s contributions can be found at the following link: New Approach Contributors

I hope this helps with some of your questions, please do not hesitate to contact us again.

Sincerely,

Troy Barber

Sensible Washington: Steering Committee;

Graphics, Outreach, Media Relations

http://sensiblewashington.org

Kitsap Area Organizer:

kitsap@sensiblewashington.org

I’m still unsure as to why the ACLU is part of this but it seems to me this has all the wrong backers with the wrong direction once it’s put into play.

Most advocates want any form of legalization for recreational use to pass. Most feel that the minor details can be sorted out and worked through afterwards, problem with this is marijuana/weed/cannabis/pot/whacky tobaccy has been illegal for so many years, it’s taken us this long just to sort through the anti-propaganda to get this far — I don’t want to wait for any more corrections while innocent people are thrown in jail or are black marked for the rest of their lives.

Don’t give up hope faithful stoners we shall and will prevail. First off I think it’s pretty awesome that one initiative made it through let alone more to follow, a counter initiative to I-502 is I-1202. Washington State has a large number of marijuana supporters; it’s just a matter of what will get approved now.

One of my favorites of the aforementioned groups is Sensible Washington, a grassroots movement based solely on volunteers, which tells me we’re doing pretty fucking good. They’re also helping to promote an alternative initiative that would help protect the patients and common man and that is I-1202. Grassroots ironically is what we should be looking for when it comes to marijuana legislation, laws by the people protecting the people.

When we look at state legalization efforts I sometimes wonder is there anyone who should have more say than the other and I think there is, NORML isn’t here though, I believe they stand for I-502 (correct me if I’m wrong). Instead it should be the dispensary owners and collective gardeners that should have the louder voice, the ones standing on the front lines right now in our non-imaginary war. Non-imaginary because jail is very real.

I have nothing but respect for the people of NORML, they’ve been fighting this fight longer than I have but sometimes it seems their judgment for what is best for the end user gets clouded by the desire to make marijuana normal. Matter of fact, NORML gives me hope. It was once brought to my attention that the government has spent billions upon billions fighting “The War on drugs” where as NORML is operating off of only a few hundred thousand, there’s something to be said about this weed thing if the truth is stronger than billions upon billions. I stand for marijuana, it has nothing to do with sickness or profit but because it’s simply the right thing to do.

The culture is slowly emerging as a respectable business; Ever since California became a medical marijuana state the industry has grown leaps and bounds ahead of the rest of the crowd. Dispensaries test their products now for pesticides, THC, CBDs. Hell they can even break it down to indica or sativa — 20 years ago I could give a fuck, I was just happy to get something not tainted. We are in the right direction with the medical marijuana structure, now we just have to find the happy medium for all end users as well.

We live in such a bullshit party society where people (professionals, people who make daily decisions in business) would rather do coke or meth since its out of their system in a matter of days where as if you’re a daily smoker like me you got to plan months ahead when looking for a new job. McDonald’s has killed more people and done more harm to society than marijuana has, yet one is accepted simply because it comes with a clown and a Happy Meal.

There is no denying the fact that marijuana is medicinal but I don’t smoke just to ease body pain I smoke because it just makes the end of the day better, no more different than a cocktail at the end of the day or if you were in the 1950’s during lunch. Marijuana is not legal but it’s a hell of a lot safer and closer than it ever was in this century, in this country.

If I-502 passes I think it will simply because of the ignorance of the non-smokers who are okay with marijuana and of course the uneducated smoker who really doesn’t care. I-502 is not a good wholesome thing but I-1202 is and hope and will help these guys anyway I can. Sure we all “can’t just get a bong” but we all can agree what good weed is.

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  1. Is criminalization still ineffective? Is weed still less harmful than alcohol? Are dealers still selling to children?

  2. The only people who are against legalization are those with something to lose – other ‘pro-legalization’ groups who won’t have a mission or dealers who don’t have any marketable skills besides selling weed. 

    First make it legal, then make it more legal. Vote yes on I-502 !

  3. general hydroponics on

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    because a Monsanto herbicide was not labeled properly, and that’s only the tip
    of the toxic iceberg when it comes to damage GMO giant Monsanto causes to us and
    our planet.

    GMO crops are linked to increased reliance on pesticides and
    herbicides, and the elimination of natural gene pools that farmers have long
    relied on. Some GMO crops are engineered so farmers have to use specific brands
    of pesticides or herbicides.

    For medical marijuana growers, a GMO world
    means human-created organisms, molds, fungi, pests, and soil diseases that your
    plants cannot defend against.

    How about pollen from genetically-modified
    marijuana that ruins your seedless marijuana flowers and introduces fatal genes
    into your plants? Or GMO-induced “superweeds” that outgrow outdoor marijuana,
    block its sun, suck its water away, and smother the landscape.

    All of
    this is probable, not just possible, if we allow GMOs and GMO corporations to
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  4. If it’s the medical growers getting hassled by the police that your so worried about, then make an effort to change the medical marijuana laws instead of a legalization initiative. Oregon has a registry program run by “the man” and it’s been working just fine for over a decade. I-502 changes nothing in regards to the WA medical program. Patients will still be able to grow but, so sorry, you still will not allowed to sell it for a profit- legally that is.  It’s hard to tell who will be the growers for the state regulated system, but that right will be open for whoever want’s to go through the legal processes.  You are jumping to an exagerated conclusion that it will be run by major players like Phillip Morris or Monsanto. The reality is that we are an eclectic bunch of connoisseurs and will demand better quality. Just look at examples in WA when it comes to organic foods and micro beers. There are big players, sure. But there are also small businesses that work with “the man”, get the right permits, follow health codes, and do quite well.  It can and will happen with cannabis.  

  5. Abillingsley374 on

    horribly written.  I agree with your points, but you could certainly benefit from some proofreading-and that is all.

  6. Thanks for a well thought out response…I couldn’t agree more,and will this headline that “Washington in USA Legalizes Cannabis” can save lives near me in ASEAN/Middle East countries ??? Prohibition is a global genocide & stoners/MMJ patients need to be MACRO and less Micro. You already have 3 kinds of high end medicine at home right now,but I’m surrounded with ‘death row’ inmates for 250 grams of raw hemp. Compassion can trump flawed legalese.Aloha from PPenh,Cambodia.

  7. “Patients Against I-502 chooses not to support an initiative which divides the community and pitts us against one another.”

    In this regard you are unified in your opposition with the The Washington Association of Sheriffs and Police Chiefs who are working shoulder to shoulder with you to defeat I-502.

    This seems strange that a law that is claimed to be a “law-enforcement wishlist” (Steinborn) is opposed by law enforcement. But we know how sneaky the police can be…

    However, retired law enforcement types who are opposed to prohibition and have no financial stake in maintaining it–LEAP– is supporting I-502.

    NORML makes a swell point. By calling itself “Patients Against I-502,” as opposed to “Citizens Against I-502,” they have divided the community.

    When we meet prohibitionist opposition it is inevitable that we link the maintenance of the status quo with financial interest. The litany includes Big Pharma, cops, drug testing firms, the addiction treatment industry, the DEA, drug cartels, private prisons, the alcohol industry, etc.

    Could a similar dynamic be at work among the reform advocates opposing I-502? NORML points out that, “The current vested interests that are public in WA are principally
    coming from activists organized as medical cannabis patients, criminal
    defense lawyers and the organizers of a pro-legalization rally…all of
    whom could indeed appear to possess vested interest in the status quo of
    WA’s current cannabis prohibition policies.”

    Just, “Say it ain’t so, Joe.”

  8. And NORML, conveniently, has chosen to censor opposing viewpoints. Apparently, they can’t handle a discussion of the merits and flaws of I-502 because it points out the blatant hipocrisy running rampant in their organization. Do we support I-502 or oppose per se DUI without demonstrable proof of impairment? NORML tells people to do both of these things – and you cannot do both of these things where I-502 is concerned. It is the first – and only – policy of its kind which forces cannabis users to exchange the arrest and incarcertaion of one subset for the arrest and incarceration of another. Patients Against I-502 chooses not to support an initiative which divides the community and pitts us against one another.

  9. I noted your comment to NORML at the aforementioned site I referenced and their editorial reply. I have to agree with NORML’s conclusion,

    “Patients Against I-502, should, like NORML and the rest of the drug policy reform community in our country, be supportive of qualifying legalization ballot initiatives as major reform vehicles, rather than rallying against them, and, ironically, their most longstanding, active and natural political allies.”

  10. I am not interested in debating with you. At this point it is sufficient to lay out the positions and let the voters decide.

    I agree with NORML and, as in my original post I direct readers to the NORML website to read why they are endorsing and actively lending their support to I-502. NORML’s response to your concerns is found under the “Editor’s note” in the comments section under the article “Endorsed: NORML Supports Marijuana Legalization Initiative in Washington State” by Allen St. Pierre, NORML Executive Director, published February 17, 2012.

  11. Again, your biggest complaint is our paraphrasing of your argument?

    To that, we must once again reply that you clearly have no FACTUAL basis to stand on if this is the best way that you can utilize your debate handbook.

  12. Excuse our paraphrasing. “do” should be “will”… “the” should be “a”… and “will bring” should be “brings.”

    So, those minor technical issues aside, you still haven’t answered the question: If you and the rest of the I-502 camp are so certain you are right – ethically and factually – why stoop to personal attacks on the character of respected activists who choose to oppose this faultly legislation?

    Asserting that patient opposition is based on financial motives is precisely that – a personal attack on the character of those who oppose I-502. Have you no better arguments to provide? 

  13. From this, what I actually wrote: “Many who are currently making money in the marijuana industry, from dispensaries to street dealers, will not support a direct financial assault that the end of prohibition brings.””

    To this, your revision of what I wrote: “Mr. Spicoli resorts to the age-old personal attack on ones morals – asserting that patients who oppose I-502 are money-grubbing drug dealers.”

    I think you are underestimating the intelligence of your audience if you think anyone won’t see through this straw man.

  14. Here’s what I wrote: “Many who are currently making money in the marijuana industry, from dispensaries to street dealers, will not support a direct financial assault that the end of prohibition brings.”

    Here’s what your editing of what I wrote: “You know, asserting things like patients who oppose are only in it for the money and “do not support the direct financial assault the end of prohibition will bring.””

    I do not know anything about the emails you purport to have received.

  15. So, when will the insulting and abusive e-mails from I-502 supporters come to an end? If the I-502 camp is so certain it’s right – ethically and factually – why stoop to personal attacks on the character of those respected activists who choose to oppose? You know, asserting things like patients who oppose are only in it for the money and “do not support the direct financial assault the end of prohibition will bring.”

  16. The highlight of that “editor’s note” being:
    “In conclusion, while supporting the broad intent and substantive reforms created by the passage of Initiative 502, NORML however does not endorse the imposition of per se laws for drivers who test positive for THC or THC metabolites in blood without additional demonstrable evidence of psychomotor impairment.”

    With all that being said, what made NORML make the quizical paradigm shift to support legislation which undermines its longtime goal of preventing “the imposition of per se laws for drivers who test positive for THC or THC metabolites in blood without additional demonstrable evidence of psychomotor impairment.”

    I-502 will institute a strict liability “per se” law for drivers who test positive for THC – plain and simple. There’s no way around it. You can’t support one without supporting the other. To cast a vote for I-502 is to knowingly cast a vote for a policy that NORML has staunchly opposed for years!

  17. So, Kim Thorburn – a single individual from Spokane – calls our concerns “a red herring.” And we should trust this I-502 sponsor because….

    Even Alison Holcomb and Dominic Holden have called patient concerns “understandable.” NORML, who now quizzically supports I-502, has been railing against these very DUI provisions for years. As one opponent recently put it, “WRONG is wrong and the insatiable need to win doesn’t make it right.”

    Of course, with no FACTUAL basis to stand on, Mr. Spicoli resorts to the age-old personal attack on ones morals – asserting that patients who oppose I-502 are money-grubbing drug dealers. Who’s the prohibitionist here?NAW might not have intended to alienate its base, but they knew it was an all-to-real possibility should cannabis activist actually READ their 66-page initiative. There are so many gotcha’s buried deep in that novella that someone was bound to notice at least one of them. Now that the inevitable has happened, they cry “misinformation” and “how dare they?”

    WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES – AND STOP DRINKING THE KOOL-AID!

  18. stopthedrugwar.org reported on Friday that Colorado’s legalization initiative “looks almost assured of making the November ballot after organizers handed in a final 12,000 signatures. They only need 2,400 valid ones.”

  19. eating_sunshine on

    That certainly clears it up.  I’m firmly for both Initiatives.  It makes no sense for one side to vote against the other. 
     
    BTW has anyone heard if Colorado’s initiative got the 2500 signatures?  When will we know? 

  20. Well said my friend. It is astounding how blind people can be to the issues at hand. I agree most smokers will automaticaly vote for anything that says legalization without a second thought believing its progress. Well not all progress is a step forward. It is possible to progress backwards. We as smokers have a duty to be informed about the decisions we make. To vote on something without knowing what exactly you are voting on only makes it take that much longer to reach our goals if not prevent us from reaching them at all.

  21. “Such concerns are overblown, said Dr. Kim Thorburn, Spokane County’s
    former top public health official and one of the sponsor’s of I-502. “In
    order to be stopped for impaired driving you have to show impairment,”
    she said. “This is not a concern for medical marijuana users and has
    been kind of a red herring that has been raised.”

    Read
    more here:
    http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/02/09/2019192/initiative-to-legalize-marijuana.html#storylink=mirelated#storylink=cpy
    Under the provisions of I-502, those who use cannabis medicinally would have  the option of utilizing the privately owned cannabis retail shops. They would no longer need a doctor’s recommendation.

    Dispensaries, not permitted in many places in the state and which exist presently in quasi-legal limbo, would be forced to compete against an open market. Many who are currently making money in the marijuana industry, from dispensaries to street dealers, will not support a direct financial assault that the end of prohibition brings.

    I’m sure NAW had no intentions of deliberately alienating anyone. However, they realize, I assume, that if we wish to pass a bill, it must be one that addresses the concerns on non-marijuana using voters. Our base must be comprised of those who oppose the policy of marijuana prohibition and are convinced that the status quo is unsatisfactory and legalization, taxation, and regulation will reduce harm.

  22. Thank you!

    And it’s a relief to know that I will not be receiving insulting and abusive e-mails from the owners of this site for my support of I-502.

  23. “I need some clarification. There are two bills i-502 and i-1202, correct? Can a voter vote yes, on both?”

    I-502 is a recreational marijuana bill. It has qualified and will appear on the November ballot. it does not change, amend, supplant, of affect the state’s current medical cannabis law in any way.

    I-1202, which is a response to I-502,  is a bill that addresses concerns of the medical marijuana community. It has not qualified for the ballot. You may or may not get the opportunity to vote on it.

    Ostensibly, I-1202 is aimed at addressing the concerns over the DUI-C provisions of I-502.

    New Approach Washington holds that the DUI-C provision is directed at the concern over impaired driving.  If, and only if, a driver is stopped with probable cause for suspected impaired driving, and there are reasonable grounds for believing that a driver is impaired, and reasonable grounds to believe the impairment is caused by marijuana or a drug other than alcohol, the officer may arrest and a blood test may be required.  Blood testing is for the psycho-active delta-9 THC and not the metabolite carboxy THC.

    The opposition, (as represented by groups such as Patients Against I-502) contends that medicinal marijuana users can have very high levels of delta-9 THC (over the proposed legal limit) but are not impaired. Because of their high levels of THC the law would “per se” make it illegal for them to drive. They fear that police will stop and even target them without probable cause and without evidence of impaired driving and demand that they submit to a blood test. This would result in arrest and possible loss of driving privileges.

    The text of I-1202 which has undergone revisions, in its final form addresses the issue in the following:

    “However, a qualifying patient may not be found in violation of chapter 46.61.502 RCW or chapter 46.61.504 RCW, or an equivalent local ordinance, based solely on the presence, or presence in a certain concentration, of components or metabolites of cannabis, without other evidence that the qualifying patient was actually impaired.”

    My own position is that I support any efforts to provide access and protections to those who use cannabis medicinally AND that ends the evils of marijuana prohibition. The reality is that we most likely will be provided with only one option on the ballot: I-502.

  24. Wait, scratch that last sentence. The point is people get arrested while you wait years for a ‘good enough’ initiative, and you may be best advised to take what you can get.

  25. I don’t live in Washington and so I’m not a voter, I don’t know the intricate details of your local political scene, so you can choose to not listen to me, but I have been closely following the political commentaries and insights of Radical Russ and Allen St. Pierre. In fact, just the other day I watched a presentation Allen gave at a marijuana colloquium this past fall at the University of Massachusetts, where he shared the frustrations of grassroot political realities, such as grassroots advocates, the marijuana stakeholders, getting the political stiff arm when the big money of “grasstops” funders come onto a scene, and frustrations of the consequences which arise from the flaws of implemented initiatives. (You can find Allen’s presentation on youtube.)

    As Allen explains, the flaws in initiatives often come from political ‘triangulation.’ I looked up the term and it’s when you position yourself in the political middle. The concessions come from courting the soccer moms and other demographic groups who still think marijuana is the scourge of evil. While it’s frustrating, the point is triangulation is necessary, probably because most people are not stakeholders and you do need the big money funding from “grasstops” to have a realistic shot at passing a measure.

    Passing an initiative, though flawed, is a form of harm reduction. Legalization of some form is the top imperative. It’s easier to retroactively fix legislation than create new legislation, but in the meantime don’t let ‘perfect’ be enemy of the good, don’t throw out the baby with the bathwater. Russ recently pointed out how, during California’s Prop 19, one of the rallying cry’s of “stoners against legalization” was “Oh, look at all these tragic flaws in Prop 19. But why rush it? We can fix the problems and try again in 2012.” But look at what has happened: California probably won’t have any legalization this year, because initiatives are so rare and hard to come by. Meanwhile, people continue to be jailed every day.

  26. Not only is national NORML supporting I-502 (in a 13-0 vote) along with NORML’s chapters in Washington, the Drug Policy Alliance, Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, Students for Sensible Drug Policy, SAFER, Marijuana Policy Project, and ACLU are supporting our state Initiative 502 “to substantively reform cannabis laws and therein challenge the federal prohibition,” according to the NORML website.

    In response to concerns by some vocal critics of I-502, NORML details why they are lending their support under a lengthy “Editor’s note” in the comments section under the article. The article is, “Endorsed: NORML Supports Marijuana Legalization Initiative in Washington State by Allen St. Pierre, NORML Executive Director, published February 17, 2012.

    I-502 does not change the Washington state medical cannabis law, with its provisions for growing cannabis, in any way.

  27. Progress comes in stutters. It is often not everything you hoped for, indeed, it almost never is all you wanted but then what is? You can still grow your own and while weed is enjoying the freedom, go to work on the details. I am 62 years old and have been fighting against the machine for 42 years now. I am overjoyed with the progress we have recently made and I see more of the silver lining than I do the dark clouds. I see legalization in my lifetime. I see the end of the no knock entry into our homes, the ransacking our homes, medicine cabinets and gardens. I too would love to wake up tomorrow and have it all my way but I am an old man who has learned the gentle give and take of life. There is much to like and much still to do but now there is light to do the rest of our work in. I curse the darkness, not the light. We are near the end of arresting and criminalizing almost 900,000 citizens each year simply because they choose marijuana instead of alcohol. We will soon be able to give America that choice. A safer choice. A choice that will not kill them should they consume a little too much. A choice that will allow them to still walk a straight line, still talk without slurring their speech, still be able to say their ABC’s! Still excercise, should they want. Still read a book, watch a movie, create music, listen to music…………try any of that while drunk!

    Our Government wants you to use only alcohol in your quest for recreation, nothing else. Even though alcohol kills thousands of Americans every year. Ask yourself why? Why would they so vigoriously attempt to keep marijuana illegal when science and medicine tells us that pot is much safer? You smell something?

  28. I need some clarification. There are two bills i-502 and i-1202, correct? Can a voter vote yes, on both?

    Can one say for sure, that if i-502 passes, the average person will be less safe from the police?

    The way it looks to me, is, more people will be more safe from the police, if i-502 passes.

    If legalization is about numbers, isn’t i-502 a “safer choice”?

  29. I am for this initiative, even if it’s flawed. This is not about legalization per se, but that the people of Washington are making a commitment and sending a message to the feds to challenge existing MJ laws. As an example, WA state voted to end alcohol prohibition 1 year ahead of the federal government. Certainly that sent a message from WA to DC.

    I have no doubt this will be challenged in court if voted in, potentially from multiple angles. One of those will likely be on the DUI provision of the initiative. I suspect that if the initiative passes, the courts will prevent the law from going forward while the law is in contention. As for big money supporting NAW, well, that’s how initiatives get passed. I don’t agree with that at all, but think of the Costco liquor measure–certainly that would not have passed if Costco hasn’t sunk loads of money into the effort.

    Polling suggests that the results on the initiative are going to be close. I would hate to see the measure lose because of infighting among MJ activists, which is what happened last year in CA.

  30. Thank you Miggy! :)
    We really hate to oppose something that seems like “legalization” but it really isn’t it will be pre-empted, and we’ll be left with an automatic marijuana DUI even if we’re sober.

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